Socketed Kabini Processors Rumored For Marchby Ian Cutress on January 29, 2014 5:25 AM EST
We saw some socketed Kabini motherboards at CES this year from MSI, and Chinese VR-Zone has published some interesting numbers regarding processors that are predicted to be on sale in March 2014.
Aside from the soldered Kabini we already have in, the socketed versions are aimed more towards the consumer range than the industrial PC or embedded lines that commonly utilise soldered on CPU/APUs. They will be based on the Jaguar CPU core design, which also means being limited to 64-bit single channel DDR3 memory. The focus of Kabini in this case is the need is for something just to process primarily in-cache data.
The APUs are also slated by VR-Zone to use GCN architecture for the integrated graphics portion. The main competition is from Intel’s Bay-Trail-D range of processors, which we have seen samples being announced. While the standard FS1b socket for Kabini is current, the rumor extends that this will be called AM1 for the new socketed APUs.
The current rumoured line up sits as:
|AMD AM1 Kabini||AMD FT3 Kabini|
|Cores / Threads||4 / 4||4 / 4||4 / 4||2 / 2||4 / 4||2 / 2|
|GPU||HD 8400||HD 8400||HD 8280||HD 8240||HD 8400||HD 8240|
|TDP||25 W||25 W||25 W||25 W||25 W||25 W|
As we can see, the desktop related socketed parts are closely related to those already in systems using a BGA interface (FT3).
For comparison, here are some Bay Trail-D parts and equivalent power Silvermont:
|Celeron J1850||Pentium J2850||Celeron J1750||
|Xeon E3-1230L V3||Atom C2750||Atom C2530|
|Cores / Threads||4 / 4||4 / 4||2 / 2||2 / 2||4 / 8||8 / 8||4 / 4|
|2400 (2600)||1700 (2000)|
|GPU||HD (Ivy Bridge)||HD (Ivy Bridge)||HD (Ivy Bridge)||
|L2 Cache||2MB||2MB||1 MB||
|4 MB||2 MB|
|TDP||10 W||10 W||10 W||53 W||25 W||20 W||9 W|
The main advantage AMD has with socketed Kabini is that Intel’s socketed offering in this range comes down to low powered –T and –TE processors from Haswell, which are expensive but offer higher performance, which is not always needed. Intel’s main low power Atom/Bay Trail range is still all BGA, meaning that the socketed Kabini route has potential for upgrades should AMD expand the processor line. The use of GCN with Kabini also offers up on the compute front, something which the Intel Haswell/Avoton line lack and the BayTrail-D line might fall up short.
What would be exciting to see is if AMD plan to keep this socket for Beema (Beema replaces Kabini in 2014, Mullins replaces Temash) which also provides a further upgrade path.
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Ranari - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - linkIt's about time!
meacupla - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - linkwait... why couldn't MSI build this in a smaller package than mITX? or, why didn't they go for a thin design if they placed everything so sparsely across the board?
for that matter, why are they using desktop RAM?
I thought the whole point of using lower TDP parts was to get them into even smaller packages than mITX?
A5 - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - linkAFAIK, mITX is the smallest standard socketed form factor. Like the article says, there are BGA versions of Kabini available for more integrated applications.
ddriver - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - linkIf you are a big OEM who needs a custom board for a custom chassis, I am pretty sure MSI will be able to build you an even smaller board, but for products which target the retail market, such a product will make no sense because it will lack the infrastructure to accommodate it.
t.s. - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - linkAgreed. I want to have choices of something like NUC.
deltatux - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - linkIf this is true then these parts will make excellent media centre parts, would love to rebuild my media centre with these parts. Currently, I'm using an AMD Athlon X2 7850 (95W TDP) for the CPU, and these 25W would be great to replace what I have now.
fourzeronine - Tuesday, February 4, 2014 - linkWhere is my Mullins tablet!?????