Dang...I thought as some rumors say the sensor size will be at least 1/2.0...oh well. Really curious what sensor Samsung is using if its a made isocell or a custom Sony. Maybe well see on the Note 6.
Another thing: Josh, will YOU be upgrading your HTC One to this device?
I don't know about Josh, but I think I will. 5" screen, 3 Ah battery, first decent AArch64 processor(s). HTC is going to be too late with their flagship, not launching until later this spring.
We don't know how well they can optimize dual pixel structure sensors yet, and 4:3 is really a huge waste on a smartphone with a 16:9 screen. Most people will shoot 16:9 for the convenience, viewing and all, and some used to pro cameras will shoot 3:2. Why shoot 4:3? To pretend you're using a $200 compact? Or does somebody who regularly shoots LF think he could substitute his Linhoff with his phone?
On the other hand, anything less than 1:1 is wasting lens resolution regardless of camera class. So yeah, 4:3 is practical. It also allows for efficient full-screen document shots without need to crop out edges, which is important for a 12mp camera.
I'd agree that a 3:2 ratio would be more conventional, but please no 16:9 bullshit.
If this already amazes you I suggest you check out the fancy gadet called "watch". It gives you similar functionality, even without blocking your smartphone screen. Some models even have infinite battery life, you simply recharge them every couple of months with a simple two-finger swipe.
Every couple of months? The largest reserve I've ever heard of is a week. You're looking at two days usually. Best to just get an automatic. This isn't the 1700s.
Yeah those are automatics. They've been the norm for most of living memory. You can get them for less than $50. If he stopped wearing it for two days the reserve would die. That's the metric I have for smartwarches. If I need to charge them then I'm not interested.
Bah... I've been wearing the same Casio G-Shock solar/atomic watch for almost a decade now. Solar recharges itself and automatically adjusts the time each evening according to the radio signal sent from the atomic clock in Denver. Finally had to replace the rechargeable batteries in it about a year ago. Still working perfectly after years of abuse. And I don't ever have to do a thing to it except put it on each morning. One of the longest lasting pieces of tech that I still use today.
I don't know. I'm torn. I currently have a Note 4 for personal usage and an S6 edge for work, so I'm no apple fanatic. A couple things I don't like are that it looks to be made of the same slippery material as the S6 edge, it looks really thick in that pic of the microusb port (hopefully just the angle. ...I know there's a bigger battery but as long as a battery lasts through the day, it's enough for me) and I don't like the shiny paint or whatever that is on the outside. Of course TouchWiz sucks but you can't expect anything different there.
On the good side I think most of the hardware components are top notch (other than the camera. ..why are they taking a page from the HTC megapixel play book 3 years later. ..did they not remember how that worked for htc?). I'm excited about the waterproofing. So yeah I don't know. ..
I really like the "shiny paint" and regard any Samsung before S6 as really ugly. And get a metal protection frame, it won't slip anymore and will easily take drops. My S6E took at least half a dozen and the protection frame's slightly dented, but I'll just get a new one soon.
Is anyone else a little disappointed in the lack of 64/128GB options? After having a 64GB phone for a while now, I've really come to appreciate the simplicity.
I'm talking about simplicity. I haven't thought about phone storage for years now. Just download whatever I want, never worry about moving stuff or symlinks, no two drives to backup, everything is accessed extremely quickly, etc. It's a nice break from my old 32GB phone.
Marshmallow seamlessly integrates the on board storage and the SD card storage...can't really get more simple. If you desire to move stuff around of course you can do that in a file explorer.
We should all be celebrating google's decision to include this feature in marshmallow. Otherwise we would still be overpaying for storage by 10x.
SD cards might be somewhat less reliable than internal storage (although people lose or break their phones a decent amount so it's not infallible) but you should be backing up anything you care about whether it is on the internal storage or the SD card. I am willing to take the somewhat increased risk of a storage failure with a 32 gb S7 plus 128 GB SD card and save the $300 for storage that costs the companies like $15. Some people might prefer to buy a 128 GB phone instead and that's fine (if it is available. ...I'm looking at you Samsung) but it's undeniably good to have the option.
The problem with adoptable storage is a significant performance hit. With Samsung having updated its mobile file system to UFS 2.0 the SD access time is likely to be significantly slower than main memory storage. While it's probably not as extreme as the HD - SSD analogy on the desktop it will be noticeable to the user. Plus, when (not if) it fails what are your recovery options to replacing a failed micro SD card.
With the $100 you save going up the next tier, go buy the best Micro SD card you can get your hands on. I recommend the 64GB Samsung Pro+ or a 128GB EVO+.
Don't worry, "simplicity" won't be compromised that much...
I've owned 8GB, 16GB, and 32GB phones, all with 32GB or 64GB microSD cards. $100 isn't a lot for a phone I'll be owning 2 years, though, for all the headache microSD cards cause me. I don't have to worry about transferring files, only one drive to backup, it doesn't matter if apps are coded poorly and don't let you move media (or waiting on an app update), the NAND lasts longer (out of the half-dozen microSD cards I've owned, 2 have died) and the NAND is consistently fast, etc.
MicroSD is only for cost-savings. On a device that I use constantly, a little money goes a long way.
Don't get me wrong; I'm happy about the 32GB minimum. But, never thinking about storage about the past few years is really wonderful--not sure I'll give that advantage up easily.
I skipped the GS6 because of the lack of Micro SD, among other reasons.
Contrary to your use case, storage expansion is absolutely necessary for me. I don't buy cheap storage at all, and I've never experienced an SD card dying out on me.
Sure, internal NAND is faster, much faster. But I don't need that speed for music, photos and videos (which accounts for more than 80% of my needs). 32GB is more than enough for all my installed apps. Samsung's camera app defaults to SD when it finds one, all my music is on there, and that gets expanded when I need it.
I just don't see how the "added convenience" justifies $200 extra to what already is an expensive device.
I don't buy cheap storage, either: Sandisk Extreme or Samsung EVO. But I've still had them fail after two years, which is a right bitch.
It's more about storage never being on my mind: that's the convenience. I never think about it. I never check whether apps support microSD cards, I never have to worry if/what is backed up, and I'll never have to say, "well, I don't know if I have enough space on my phone". I never "clean" my phone of "big" apps, etc. Pocket was, and still is on my GS4, terrible with a microSD card; their app just never saved things properly on the microSD card and kept going to my main storage, even though I selected SD card. On my 64GB phone, I didn't need to wait for Pocket to figure it out.
Map files were a lot faster on my GS4 on the NAND vs microSd and they eat up tons of GBs. But, music and other media, agreed: it doesn't matter.
64GB is enough; $100 isn't a lot when spread out over months and years. $100 is pennies per day over two years.
Is your G4 on marshmallow? The internal storage and SD card are supposed to be treated like one pool of storage by default (of course you can customize what is stored where if you desire). This is exactly what you say you want - to not have to think about storage. Theoretically you could get 232 GB of storage on a 32 GB phone with the largest micro SD cards currently available.
Not sure what is going on with your micro SD cards failing but many (most?) people in the US get a new phone every two years, and also you should be backing up important stuff no matter whether it is saved on the phone or the SD card anyway. I, too, have never had an SD card fail...some have lasted 6 years. Certainly you're correct that internal storage is more reliable but according to a quick Google search it appears that gap is closing.
You may think you don't need it for photos but you're wrong. Faster storage for photos enables faster gallery access, especially when the photos pile up.
Wait, I'm confused. Did you not read the article? These are final specifications; Anandtech confirmed all the specifications. If it had 64/128GB options, they would've written it....you know, like they did the for the S6.
Don't worry about it. The human eye has very low sensitivity to chromatic detail and pentile matrices deliver luminatic detail on the same level as RGB stripe. At pixel densities like these, pentile is battery life free lunch.
They seem to combine the S6 Edge and S6 Edge+ into one device, the new S7 Edge. Nice. But I'm more interested in the regular S7, which sees many major improvements over the S6. The only downsides are probably the weight and thickness, but that's ok considering the bigger battery and so on. I'm wondering if the camera now supports 1080p60 and 4k video capture with features like HDR, on the S6 those things were limited to max. 1080p30.
Really surprised Samsung stayed with the old MicroUSB port instead of moving to the new Type-C port. Otherwise, this is finally the much anticipated upgrade to the S5 that the S6 was not.
But the whole point is that industry giants like Samsung should be the first ones making the move because they have lots of influence. If everybody waits, then the move will never take place.
The move will take place, but Samsung is exactly the wrong player to do this, actually. I just read an article about who will bear the "brunt" of USB type-C transition pain. Large-volume companies want to avoid the impending confusion with USB type-C (alternate mode? 100W charging? USB 3.0?), avoid customer blowback on old accessories (some of which are pricey), and certainly stay away from any "iffy" cable scenarios that are slowly being weeded out.
They are waiting for consumers to figure out USB type-C themselves with more niche products; when it's big enough, then they'll jump on.
I actually want phones and weak arm tablets to stick to the old microUSB, its really nice to have this universal charging port now compared to the hell of a few years ago.
Type-C can get a market share in x86 tablets, convertibles and actual laptops, where the previous USB standard is insufficient, and then phones can switch to it when the cables are widely available.
They wanted it to be compatible with the recent GearVR. There is no real benefit for them to jump to type C right now. The S7 is still going to one of the fastest charging phones. I'm sure the Note 6 and the next GearVR will support USB type C.
Samsung doesn't want to be the one to educate consumers about USB type-C and it's impending confusion with alternate mode (including MHL & DisplayPort), Thunderbolt 3, 100W charging, and USB 2.0 to USB 3.1 gen2 possible speeds.
They also want to avoid customer blowback on accessories and absolutely stay away from any "iffy" cable scenarios. People mindlessly plug in USB cables and Samsung, in terms of increasing sales, doesn't want to be the company that makes you say, "wait, can I use this? Is it the right connector? Is it safe? Where did you buy it?"
They want you to figure that out earlier with some other niche product; then, when the consumer market is ready, Samsung will jump on.
Why not? One would think big players in the industry like Samsung should take the lead on educating the public or at least play a role in educating the public commensurate with their market share.
A bit better in everything and that's the HUGE problem, just a bit better. And lots of missed opportunities. The SoC is fine but not that fast vs the S6 and last year they had an almost total monopoly on both the SoC and curved. SD820, 4GB, 1440p flat is about as boring as it can get, it's like most phone makes just decided not to differentiate and go ahead and save a few $. It's a high end 700$ phone, give the people that pay that much on a phone,what they need, marketing specs. Nobody reasonable pays that , you don't excite them with what makes sense, you don't win Apple users with boring. If they had 4k flat and 1440p curved at 700$ it would have made a big difference. The fact that they have curved and they fully negate that advantage by not absorbing the cost difference , if representative for Samsung's problems. They miss the biggest opportunities by getting greedy,looking at share price and short term margins. Then they spend tens of billions of dollars on marketing, instead of investing a bit more in their own product. They do a good job at refining the design, but they keep the big bezels and the home button, They add side functions to the Edge but no side touch and, again they keep the home button to just negate what they are doing.design wise the Edge ends up looking ok but the S7 is rather ugly, even with all the changes being positive. No wifi ad, no USB Type-C more missed opportunities. Obviously they keep the battery small to medium since buyers whine about battery life but then they go and buy a thin phone on looks. The cam shows their fixation with Apple, they need to learn to look forward not backwards. Their talk about listening was disappointing. It's ok to listen but you can't innovate if you don't know any better than your customers. Innovation is something the average customer cant achieve. Samsung and everybody else must aim a lot higher than just that. Too little but mostly a step forward. Will be interesting to see if it sells well, i wouldn't expect that. LG and HTC and some other might mess up badly but some are bound to do better if not a lot better.
I'm feeling your pain. I'm having the same problem with smartphones I've had with tablets for a year now: there simply isn't anything on the market that makes me want to buy a new one. I want a new tablet, and I want a new phone, but there's nothing I want to buy. Especially at those totally crazy prices. 750€ for SGS7 with 32GB of internal storage. 850€ for the Edge. Ridiculous. If Chinese manufacturers can offer the same hardware with less than half the price, there is something horribly wrong somewhere. Or someone horribly greedy somewhere. Or someone spending way too much money on marketing nonsense. The Samsung MWC event lasted an hour, but it provided almost 0 information on anything. Battery and screen size were the only specs mentioned. Almost everything else was just marketing BS with no meaningful content. They spent one hour delivering information that could've been delivered in less than two minutes. If that's how inefficiently everything else is done, it's no wonder they have to charge 100% extra compared to others.
There's honestly nothing reasonable about your complaints. - 4K screen? Really? There's stupid, and there's plain idiotic. - The "curved" GS6 Edge is still here, and at a discount. - Big bezels? SERIOUSLY? - S7 ugly? - Fixation with Apple because the camera is better?
You know, I'm no apologist, but there isn't a single piece of tech they have on the GS7 duo that isn't the absolute best technology can offer. I'm really glad they didn't go with pressure sensitivity or any other gimmick route. For once, I'm really glad we're getting refinement and perfection of what 5" smartphone can achieve.
Aside from the removable battery and USB-C there isn't anything about this device that isn't perfect. I wish it had an RGB 1080p panel, but oh well, the efficient processor/GPU make up for it.
- Most compact 5" smartphone (this is by far my best feature in the Galaxy S series). - Note5 sized battery (this phone will easily last me 3 days on a charge). - Samsung and Qualcomm's fastest, most power efficient processors (I'm vouching for Exynos to best of the two). - Best design IMO. - Water and dust resistance - Micro SD card. - Always on display with custom screens (this feature is really underrated). - Most likely the absolute best camera you're getting on a 5" smartphone. - Best software features on a phone IMO. - Screw VR (not interested).
This is a mainstream, mass market device. It's not niche. This is the BEST compromise they can make to please the mainstream with its varying levels of needs and wants. It's much, MUCH better than the GS6. This market segment is about perfection, not crazy niche features.
It already benches slower than Apple's SoC from last year. It will be obliterated when the A10 drops later this year. Then there's TouchWiz, inferior apps, lagging updates, inferior security. What's impressive about this flagship even compared to the Nexus? I don't see it...
You mean faux-K like Sony is selling? Android, apps and services aren't ready for 4k. "Future-proofing" a device today for something that might or might not be available in the software sometime years down the road is a complete waste of money and resources.
Still don't learn to give the option of textured aluminum, glass back covers look disgusting after the 1st touch, it's fine just to show it off in a museum not for daily use.
Wash your hands more often then. And there is also the option of picking one of the bright colour models. Fingerprints aren't really visible on a bright surface. Having an aluminum back is a terrible choice signal-wise. In every signal performance test ever made the phones with metal back-sides always perform terrible compared to plastic or glass phones.
Aluminum also takes disgusting smudges after use. "Textured" aluminum has micro dents on the surface that holds grease making it hard to clean, what do you expect.
You sure that's not just the very high saturation? I have the saturation reduced on my Note 4 to the photo mode and there is nothing odd about the display outside of super high contrast diagonal lines being blurry when my nose is against the glass.
I think you have a very romantic memory of what CRT looked like. You know, a memory where all the deformation, poor contrast and constant need for recalibration of everyting has disappeared... :D
Yer I can always spot Sammy phones a mile off due to their weird colours (whatever the profile you choose). It's mostly when you aren't looking at it straight on, but still, it used to bug me every day on my last Samsung phones and only affects amoled screens that I've seen. I think they should just say the curved screen is there to look cool, there is zero practical use for it that I've found.
Super excited about this. I'll echo what several other people have already commented: this appears to be a good update/refinement of the already pretty good S6. I'd been planning to potentially drop my Note 4 for whatever next-gen Nexus is released this fall, but this could be appealing enough to also consider after I see some reviews. And by reviews, I mean in-depth coverage like you see here on Anandtech, not the: "look we benchmarked it in AnTuTu and it is NUMBERS"
On a less serious note: at first glance the second to last picture (the second of the battery case) makes it look like the person out of focus to the right is wearing no pants!!!
I'd settle with 1080p60 HEVC. That would be great.
What kills me though, is why the heck won't Samsung develop an entirely hardware accelerated VoIP/Video calling/messaging platform for their Galaxy devices (with dedicated chips/hardware) that's fully integrated in the Dialer and Messaging apps with HEVC or VP9 for video calls (a-la Facetime). One that is integrated with your contact list (phone numbers), and always on/suggested when you call a contact that also has enabled Galaxy hardware. That would be a huge selling feature with superior quality and reliability. It can be cross platform on their hardware from Android, Tizen and Windows....
Whenever they add features that are only usable Galaxy to Galaxy they are never used and forgotten about, because it's not like they are as ubiquitous as iPhones, and it's not supported on every model. Even on iOS, it takes a couple of generations of people using a particular feature and marketing to really be able to tell if its successful or not.
You're right for the most part, a good example is ChatOn; their sorry excuse of a messaging app.
What I'm talking about, however, is different. Something completely integrated, stable, and hardware dependent. Something that improves the built-in experience akin to Apple's iMessage and Facetime.
Everyone uses their Dialer and Messaging apps. If said service was built-in to these apps, people will more likely use them, because why not if they're better than the carrier AND free. When someone dials a number to another phone supporting a service, they can simply prompt the user if they'd like to enable that "higher quality" call, or video call. When someone send a text message, a similar prompt appears.
I'm not talking about a different app, with different login and authentication. I'm talking about an integrated experience, one that is high in quality and easy on network packets.
The problem with Samsung is that they're on very good terms with carriers. They'll be a much better brand if they let go of that relationship and build a better one with the consumer.
I think that Samsung should be given credit for bucking the trend from the last several years and making a thicker and heavier phone so that they could put in a bigger battery. To me this makes a ton of sense.
Also they brought back the microSD slot which again should be applauded.
One thing I'm confused by is if the Edge model's screen has a different aspect ratio than the standard S7. Is it still 16:9, or is it like 16:10? If you load a YouTube video on the Edge, are the top and bottom of the video going to be warped?
Impressive. They fixed and improve a lot of things from the S6 especially the battery and memory expansion. I loved the idea of a 12MP or less image sensor but learning it as a Dual Pixel technology, it is technically close to a 24MP sensor. The wider aperture is also impressive but as mentioned already, corner sharpness/quality might suffer. Last thing missing for me is Samsung to make a Nexus.
"close to a 24MP sensor", exactly, but outputting 12MP images, just with the complexity(or more) of a 24MP sensor. This could cause problems. I wonder how much of each pixelsite is blocked by wiring...
Looks like a great phone, but I'm not a big fan of the curved display, and the display on the normal S7 is too small for me. Hope they will release a larger version as well.
the most interesting thing for me is the fact that ports don't have antiwater plugs. Those plugs break off and stuff and are a nuisance when you need access.
It's not that interesting, Sony already had it for a few generations, but good for Samsung to bring it in anyways. What's interesting now is that with Samsung waterproof, what advantage, if any, does the Sony flagship have...It also looks uglier than the last generation.
Sammy took a cue from Apple with the S6 by using breakable glass on the front and rear panels Now they have gone full retard and added glass to the side panels. And the sheeple say Baaaahhhhhhh
The most important point about Samsung phones (and LG, and most all Android units...) remains that they ship with an out of date OS, and won't get timely OS updates if they get them at all.
In the modern world, they're not safe, and are ludicrous products.
Buy a Nexus if you want Android. It's the only legitimate choice.
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RaichuPls - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Any information on the Samsung chip for non-NA regions?Dobson123 - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Likely the Exynos 8890.zeeBomb - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Dang...I thought as some rumors say the sensor size will be at least 1/2.0...oh well. Really curious what sensor Samsung is using if its a made isocell or a custom Sony. Maybe well see on the Note 6.Another thing: Josh, will YOU be upgrading your HTC One to this device?
Meteor2 - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
I don't know about Josh, but I think I will. 5" screen, 3 Ah battery, first decent AArch64 processor(s). HTC is going to be too late with their flagship, not launching until later this spring.DevilSlayerWizard - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Super hyped about the camera!! Now only if they'd put a Xenon flash on there.... *sigh*s.yu - Thursday, February 25, 2016 - link
We don't know how well they can optimize dual pixel structure sensors yet, and 4:3 is really a huge waste on a smartphone with a 16:9 screen. Most people will shoot 16:9 for the convenience, viewing and all, and some used to pro cameras will shoot 3:2. Why shoot 4:3? To pretend you're using a $200 compact? Or does somebody who regularly shoots LF think he could substitute his Linhoff with his phone?monopodman - Tuesday, March 1, 2016 - link
On the other hand, anything less than 1:1 is wasting lens resolution regardless of camera class. So yeah, 4:3 is practical. It also allows for efficient full-screen document shots without need to crop out edges, which is important for a 12mp camera.I'd agree that a 3:2 ratio would be more conventional, but please no 16:9 bullshit.
Chaitanya - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
I suspect Canon might object with samsung calling its phase detect sensor a Dual pixel system.Eden-K121D - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
THey might have licensed it from them. I heard a rumor or so about thislilmoe - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Perfection of the current modern smartphone. Welcome back, king.lilmoe - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
That always on analog clock (last picture) is absolutely amazing.MrSpadge - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
If this already amazes you I suggest you check out the fancy gadet called "watch". It gives you similar functionality, even without blocking your smartphone screen. Some models even have infinite battery life, you simply recharge them every couple of months with a simple two-finger swipe.willis936 - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Every couple of months? The largest reserve I've ever heard of is a week. You're looking at two days usually. Best to just get an automatic. This isn't the 1700s.squngy - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
A friend of mine used to carry around a analogue watch that would wind its self from vibrations (mostly from walking)As long as you wore it regularly it would never need to be wound at all.
willis936 - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Yeah those are automatics. They've been the norm for most of living memory. You can get them for less than $50. If he stopped wearing it for two days the reserve would die. That's the metric I have for smartwarches. If I need to charge them then I'm not interested.Creig - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Bah... I've been wearing the same Casio G-Shock solar/atomic watch for almost a decade now. Solar recharges itself and automatically adjusts the time each evening according to the radio signal sent from the atomic clock in Denver. Finally had to replace the rechargeable batteries in it about a year ago. Still working perfectly after years of abuse. And I don't ever have to do a thing to it except put it on each morning. One of the longest lasting pieces of tech that I still use today.lilmoe - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
It really does. Love it. Much more convenient that wearing my watch all the time. I actually take it off when I'm home or in the office.xthetenth - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
It's half a glance screen.zeeBomb - Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - link
AmahzingggESC2000 - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
I don't know. I'm torn. I currently have a Note 4 for personal usage and an S6 edge for work, so I'm no apple fanatic. A couple things I don't like are that it looks to be made of the same slippery material as the S6 edge, it looks really thick in that pic of the microusb port (hopefully just the angle. ...I know there's a bigger battery but as long as a battery lasts through the day, it's enough for me) and I don't like the shiny paint or whatever that is on the outside. Of course TouchWiz sucks but you can't expect anything different there.On the good side I think most of the hardware components are top notch (other than the camera. ..why are they taking a page from the HTC megapixel play book 3 years later. ..did they not remember how that worked for htc?). I'm excited about the waterproofing. So yeah I don't know. ..
Devo2007 - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
The only reason that bigger pixels didn't work for HTC was because 4MP was a poor resolution for a camera even at that time. 12MP is plenty!s.yu - Thursday, February 25, 2016 - link
I really like the "shiny paint" and regard any Samsung before S6 as really ugly. And get a metal protection frame, it won't slip anymore and will easily take drops. My S6E took at least half a dozen and the protection frame's slightly dented, but I'll just get a new one soon.ikjadoon - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Is anyone else a little disappointed in the lack of 64/128GB options? After having a 64GB phone for a while now, I've really come to appreciate the simplicity.SnakeOil913 - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
just get a 64GB sd card thenLolimaster - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
I would like to have some files right in the phone and keep the SD's for collections.theduckofdeath - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Lucky for you that Android Marshmallow supports adoptable storage, which works like adding an extra disk to an existing Linux volume.Devo2007 - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Unfortunately, the S7 doesn't support adoptable storage (neither does the LG G5 for that matter)ikjadoon - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
I'm talking about simplicity. I haven't thought about phone storage for years now. Just download whatever I want, never worry about moving stuff or symlinks, no two drives to backup, everything is accessed extremely quickly, etc. It's a nice break from my old 32GB phone.ESC2000 - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Marshmallow seamlessly integrates the on board storage and the SD card storage...can't really get more simple. If you desire to move stuff around of course you can do that in a file explorer.We should all be celebrating google's decision to include this feature in marshmallow. Otherwise we would still be overpaying for storage by 10x.
SD cards might be somewhat less reliable than internal storage (although people lose or break their phones a decent amount so it's not infallible) but you should be backing up anything you care about whether it is on the internal storage or the SD card. I am willing to take the somewhat increased risk of a storage failure with a 32 gb S7 plus 128 GB SD card and save the $300 for storage that costs the companies like $15. Some people might prefer to buy a 128 GB phone instead and that's fine (if it is available. ...I'm looking at you Samsung) but it's undeniably good to have the option.
trivor - Tuesday, February 23, 2016 - link
The problem with adoptable storage is a significant performance hit. With Samsung having updated its mobile file system to UFS 2.0 the SD access time is likely to be significantly slower than main memory storage. While it's probably not as extreme as the HD - SSD analogy on the desktop it will be noticeable to the user. Plus, when (not if) it fails what are your recovery options to replacing a failed micro SD card.s.yu - Thursday, February 25, 2016 - link
If it ends up having a single unified integrated controller...this may not be so much of a problem, but I don't know if this is developed yet.lilmoe - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
With the $100 you save going up the next tier, go buy the best Micro SD card you can get your hands on. I recommend the 64GB Samsung Pro+ or a 128GB EVO+.Don't worry, "simplicity" won't be compromised that much...
ikjadoon - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
I've owned 8GB, 16GB, and 32GB phones, all with 32GB or 64GB microSD cards. $100 isn't a lot for a phone I'll be owning 2 years, though, for all the headache microSD cards cause me. I don't have to worry about transferring files, only one drive to backup, it doesn't matter if apps are coded poorly and don't let you move media (or waiting on an app update), the NAND lasts longer (out of the half-dozen microSD cards I've owned, 2 have died) and the NAND is consistently fast, etc.MicroSD is only for cost-savings. On a device that I use constantly, a little money goes a long way.
Don't get me wrong; I'm happy about the 32GB minimum. But, never thinking about storage about the past few years is really wonderful--not sure I'll give that advantage up easily.
lilmoe - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
I skipped the GS6 because of the lack of Micro SD, among other reasons.Contrary to your use case, storage expansion is absolutely necessary for me. I don't buy cheap storage at all, and I've never experienced an SD card dying out on me.
Sure, internal NAND is faster, much faster. But I don't need that speed for music, photos and videos (which accounts for more than 80% of my needs). 32GB is more than enough for all my installed apps. Samsung's camera app defaults to SD when it finds one, all my music is on there, and that gets expanded when I need it.
I just don't see how the "added convenience" justifies $200 extra to what already is an expensive device.
ikjadoon - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
I don't buy cheap storage, either: Sandisk Extreme or Samsung EVO. But I've still had them fail after two years, which is a right bitch.It's more about storage never being on my mind: that's the convenience. I never think about it. I never check whether apps support microSD cards, I never have to worry if/what is backed up, and I'll never have to say, "well, I don't know if I have enough space on my phone". I never "clean" my phone of "big" apps, etc. Pocket was, and still is on my GS4, terrible with a microSD card; their app just never saved things properly on the microSD card and kept going to my main storage, even though I selected SD card. On my 64GB phone, I didn't need to wait for Pocket to figure it out.
Map files were a lot faster on my GS4 on the NAND vs microSd and they eat up tons of GBs. But, music and other media, agreed: it doesn't matter.
64GB is enough; $100 isn't a lot when spread out over months and years. $100 is pennies per day over two years.
ESC2000 - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Is your G4 on marshmallow? The internal storage and SD card are supposed to be treated like one pool of storage by default (of course you can customize what is stored where if you desire). This is exactly what you say you want - to not have to think about storage. Theoretically you could get 232 GB of storage on a 32 GB phone with the largest micro SD cards currently available.Not sure what is going on with your micro SD cards failing but many (most?) people in the US get a new phone every two years, and also you should be backing up important stuff no matter whether it is saved on the phone or the SD card anyway. I, too, have never had an SD card fail...some have lasted 6 years. Certainly you're correct that internal storage is more reliable but according to a quick Google search it appears that gap is closing.
s.yu - Thursday, February 25, 2016 - link
You may think you don't need it for photos but you're wrong. Faster storage for photos enables faster gallery access, especially when the photos pile up.tuxRoller - Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - link
Samsung is only exposing the option to use the sdcard as external storage. No disagree adoption here (or for the LG phone).retrospooty - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
What makes you think there wont be 64 and 128gb options? This is just early press release material.ikjadoon - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
For US owners, only the 32GB option will be available. 64GB is international-only.ikjadoon - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Wait, I'm confused. Did you not read the article? These are final specifications; Anandtech confirmed all the specifications. If it had 64/128GB options, they would've written it....you know, like they did the for the S6.squngy - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
The new version of Android integrates SD cards more closely, making it seem like only one big memory.ikjadoon - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Except if they disable it...like the LG G5 does. http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g5-keeps-sd-card-...tuxRoller - Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - link
And Samsung.http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/02/the-lg-g5-a...
s.yu - Thursday, February 25, 2016 - link
Oh I'm disappointed there's no 128, but 64 will be released afterwards so it just takes a longer wait.Jigolo - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Are the displays still of a diamond pentile matrix?Monepone - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Yes, best displays on the market.Rdmkr - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Don't worry about it. The human eye has very low sensitivity to chromatic detail and pentile matrices deliver luminatic detail on the same level as RGB stripe. At pixel densities like these, pentile is battery life free lunch.Dobson123 - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
They seem to combine the S6 Edge and S6 Edge+ into one device, the new S7 Edge. Nice. But I'm more interested in the regular S7, which sees many major improvements over the S6. The only downsides are probably the weight and thickness, but that's ok considering the bigger battery and so on. I'm wondering if the camera now supports 1080p60 and 4k video capture with features like HDR, on the S6 those things were limited to max. 1080p30.s.yu - Thursday, February 25, 2016 - link
They also added the back design of the Note 5, the result is simply beautiful!mjcutri - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Really surprised Samsung stayed with the old MicroUSB port instead of moving to the new Type-C port. Otherwise, this is finally the much anticipated upgrade to the S5 that the S6 was not.Meteor2 - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
There's an awful lot of microUSB chargers out there. Type-C will come to dominate, but it's going to take time.Cod3rror - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
But the whole point is that industry giants like Samsung should be the first ones making the move because they have lots of influence. If everybody waits, then the move will never take place.ikjadoon - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
The move will take place, but Samsung is exactly the wrong player to do this, actually. I just read an article about who will bear the "brunt" of USB type-C transition pain. Large-volume companies want to avoid the impending confusion with USB type-C (alternate mode? 100W charging? USB 3.0?), avoid customer blowback on old accessories (some of which are pricey), and certainly stay away from any "iffy" cable scenarios that are slowly being weeded out.They are waiting for consumers to figure out USB type-C themselves with more niche products; when it's big enough, then they'll jump on.
zeeBomb - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Article???Visual - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
I actually want phones and weak arm tablets to stick to the old microUSB, its really nice to have this universal charging port now compared to the hell of a few years ago.Type-C can get a market share in x86 tablets, convertibles and actual laptops, where the previous USB standard is insufficient, and then phones can switch to it when the cables are widely available.
Monepone - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
They wanted it to be compatible with the recent GearVR. There is no real benefit for them to jump to type C right now. The S7 is still going to one of the fastest charging phones. I'm sure the Note 6 and the next GearVR will support USB type C.mjcutri - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
The benefit is that type-c is much sturdier of connection than microUSB. The new G5 has type-c with usb 2.0, I don't see why the S7 can't...ikjadoon - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Samsung doesn't want to be the one to educate consumers about USB type-C and it's impending confusion with alternate mode (including MHL & DisplayPort), Thunderbolt 3, 100W charging, and USB 2.0 to USB 3.1 gen2 possible speeds.They also want to avoid customer blowback on accessories and absolutely stay away from any "iffy" cable scenarios. People mindlessly plug in USB cables and Samsung, in terms of increasing sales, doesn't want to be the company that makes you say, "wait, can I use this? Is it the right connector? Is it safe? Where did you buy it?"
They want you to figure that out earlier with some other niche product; then, when the consumer market is ready, Samsung will jump on.
ESC2000 - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Why not? One would think big players in the industry like Samsung should take the lead on educating the public or at least play a role in educating the public commensurate with their market share.jjj - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
A bit better in everything and that's the HUGE problem, just a bit better. And lots of missed opportunities.The SoC is fine but not that fast vs the S6 and last year they had an almost total monopoly on both the SoC and curved.
SD820, 4GB, 1440p flat is about as boring as it can get, it's like most phone makes just decided not to differentiate and go ahead and save a few $. It's a high end 700$ phone, give the people that pay that much on a phone,what they need, marketing specs. Nobody reasonable pays that , you don't excite them with what makes sense, you don't win Apple users with boring. If they had 4k flat and 1440p curved at 700$ it would have made a big difference. The fact that they have curved and they fully negate that advantage by not absorbing the cost difference , if representative for Samsung's problems. They miss the biggest opportunities by getting greedy,looking at share price and short term margins. Then they spend tens of billions of dollars on marketing, instead of investing a bit more in their own product.
They do a good job at refining the design, but they keep the big bezels and the home button, They add side functions to the Edge but no side touch and, again they keep the home button to just negate what they are doing.design wise the Edge ends up looking ok but the S7 is rather ugly, even with all the changes being positive.
No wifi ad, no USB Type-C more missed opportunities. Obviously they keep the battery small to medium since buyers whine about battery life but then they go and buy a thin phone on looks.
The cam shows their fixation with Apple, they need to learn to look forward not backwards.
Their talk about listening was disappointing. It's ok to listen but you can't innovate if you don't know any better than your customers. Innovation is something the average customer cant achieve. Samsung and everybody else must aim a lot higher than just that.
Too little but mostly a step forward. Will be interesting to see if it sells well, i wouldn't expect that. LG and HTC and some other might mess up badly but some are bound to do better if not a lot better.
Kepe - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
I'm feeling your pain. I'm having the same problem with smartphones I've had with tablets for a year now: there simply isn't anything on the market that makes me want to buy a new one.I want a new tablet, and I want a new phone, but there's nothing I want to buy. Especially at those totally crazy prices. 750€ for SGS7 with 32GB of internal storage. 850€ for the Edge. Ridiculous. If Chinese manufacturers can offer the same hardware with less than half the price, there is something horribly wrong somewhere. Or someone horribly greedy somewhere. Or someone spending way too much money on marketing nonsense.
The Samsung MWC event lasted an hour, but it provided almost 0 information on anything. Battery and screen size were the only specs mentioned. Almost everything else was just marketing BS with no meaningful content. They spent one hour delivering information that could've been delivered in less than two minutes. If that's how inefficiently everything else is done, it's no wonder they have to charge 100% extra compared to others.
Dobson123 - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
"The SoC is fine but not that fast vs the S6 and last year they had an almost total monopoly on both the SoC and curved."What SoC did you expect? The SD820 is as good as it can get at the moment.
Lolimaster - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
More megapixels doesn't mean more quality. For the cramped space I would prefer an 8-10Mpx camera on phones improving the quality to the max.lilmoe - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
There's honestly nothing reasonable about your complaints.- 4K screen? Really? There's stupid, and there's plain idiotic.
- The "curved" GS6 Edge is still here, and at a discount.
- Big bezels? SERIOUSLY?
- S7 ugly?
- Fixation with Apple because the camera is better?
You know, I'm no apologist, but there isn't a single piece of tech they have on the GS7 duo that isn't the absolute best technology can offer. I'm really glad they didn't go with pressure sensitivity or any other gimmick route. For once, I'm really glad we're getting refinement and perfection of what 5" smartphone can achieve.
Aside from the removable battery and USB-C there isn't anything about this device that isn't perfect. I wish it had an RGB 1080p panel, but oh well, the efficient processor/GPU make up for it.
- Most compact 5" smartphone (this is by far my best feature in the Galaxy S series).
- Note5 sized battery (this phone will easily last me 3 days on a charge).
- Samsung and Qualcomm's fastest, most power efficient processors (I'm vouching for Exynos to best of the two).
- Best design IMO.
- Water and dust resistance
- Micro SD card.
- Always on display with custom screens (this feature is really underrated).
- Most likely the absolute best camera you're getting on a 5" smartphone.
- Best software features on a phone IMO.
- Screw VR (not interested).
This is a mainstream, mass market device. It's not niche. This is the BEST compromise they can make to please the mainstream with its varying levels of needs and wants. It's much, MUCH better than the GS6. This market segment is about perfection, not crazy niche features.
KoolAidMan1 - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
"You know, I'm no apologist"You were blown away by a clock screensaver...
It already benches slower than Apple's SoC from last year. It will be obliterated when the A10 drops later this year. Then there's TouchWiz, inferior apps, lagging updates, inferior security. What's impressive about this flagship even compared to the Nexus? I don't see it...
lilmoe - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
You know, you guys are confusing. Sometimes benchmarks "don't matter", sometimes they do. Make up your damn mind.When you finish re-reading what I like about this device, share some of that koolaid. SMH....
s.yu - Thursday, February 25, 2016 - link
Wow, you said most of what I wanted to say and much more.MrSpadge - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Which SoC do you suggest they buy instead of SD820? The only significantly faster one is the A9, but good luck asking Apple to sell them.KPOM - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Since they have their own designs, perhaps they could have developed a faster chip of their own.Dobson123 - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
The Exynos 8890 likely delivers a comparable performance. More just isn't available at the moment.theduckofdeath - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
You mean faux-K like Sony is selling? Android, apps and services aren't ready for 4k. "Future-proofing" a device today for something that might or might not be available in the software sometime years down the road is a complete waste of money and resources.Lolimaster - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Still don't learn to give the option of textured aluminum, glass back covers look disgusting after the 1st touch, it's fine just to show it off in a museum not for daily use.theduckofdeath - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Wash your hands more often then.And there is also the option of picking one of the bright colour models. Fingerprints aren't really visible on a bright surface.
Having an aluminum back is a terrible choice signal-wise. In every signal performance test ever made the phones with metal back-sides always perform terrible compared to plastic or glass phones.
s.yu - Thursday, February 25, 2016 - link
Aluminum also takes disgusting smudges after use. "Textured" aluminum has micro dents on the surface that holds grease making it hard to clean, what do you expect.Lolimaster - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
And still not giving up on pentile.Dobson123 - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
In my opinion with 1440p it's not visible anymore.Lolimaster - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Im not talking about the pixels but the aberrations to image quality pentile gives, specially on white. grey, blue and yellow.Reading manga on a S6 feels unnatural color wise vs my trinitron 21" CRT monitor.
frostyfiredude - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
You sure that's not just the very high saturation? I have the saturation reduced on my Note 4 to the photo mode and there is nothing odd about the display outside of super high contrast diagonal lines being blurry when my nose is against the glass.Lolimaster - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
I always use the "calibrated" profile, still not enough.Lolimaster - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
And I actually tested the Galaxy Tab S 10.1 RGB AMOLED, that was godly.Lolimaster - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Maybe because you never saw the true image quality that only a CRT or real life showed.theduckofdeath - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
I think you have a very romantic memory of what CRT looked like. You know, a memory where all the deformation, poor contrast and constant need for recalibration of everyting has disappeared... :DKoolAidMan1 - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Yeah, white balance still isn't correct on pentile even with the calibrated profilerobinthakur - Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - link
Yer I can always spot Sammy phones a mile off due to their weird colours (whatever the profile you choose). It's mostly when you aren't looking at it straight on, but still, it used to bug me every day on my last Samsung phones and only affects amoled screens that I've seen. I think they should just say the curved screen is there to look cool, there is zero practical use for it that I've found.s.yu - Thursday, February 25, 2016 - link
Looking cool is practical.MrCommunistGen - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Super excited about this. I'll echo what several other people have already commented: this appears to be a good update/refinement of the already pretty good S6. I'd been planning to potentially drop my Note 4 for whatever next-gen Nexus is released this fall, but this could be appealing enough to also consider after I see some reviews. And by reviews, I mean in-depth coverage like you see here on Anandtech, not the: "look we benchmarked it in AnTuTu and it is NUMBERS"On a less serious note: at first glance the second to last picture (the second of the battery case) makes it look like the person out of focus to the right is wearing no pants!!!
0iron - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
LOL. It's look like or it really is?SydneyBlue120d - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Is unlimited HEVC encoding with both IOS and HDR at 2160p60 supported? Thanks a lot.lilmoe - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
I'd settle with 1080p60 HEVC. That would be great.What kills me though, is why the heck won't Samsung develop an entirely hardware accelerated VoIP/Video calling/messaging platform for their Galaxy devices (with dedicated chips/hardware) that's fully integrated in the Dialer and Messaging apps with HEVC or VP9 for video calls (a-la Facetime). One that is integrated with your contact list (phone numbers), and always on/suggested when you call a contact that also has enabled Galaxy hardware. That would be a huge selling feature with superior quality and reliability. It can be cross platform on their hardware from Android, Tizen and Windows....
robinthakur - Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - link
Whenever they add features that are only usable Galaxy to Galaxy they are never used and forgotten about, because it's not like they are as ubiquitous as iPhones, and it's not supported on every model. Even on iOS, it takes a couple of generations of people using a particular feature and marketing to really be able to tell if its successful or not.lilmoe - Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - link
You're right for the most part, a good example is ChatOn; their sorry excuse of a messaging app.What I'm talking about, however, is different. Something completely integrated, stable, and hardware dependent. Something that improves the built-in experience akin to Apple's iMessage and Facetime.
Everyone uses their Dialer and Messaging apps. If said service was built-in to these apps, people will more likely use them, because why not if they're better than the carrier AND free. When someone dials a number to another phone supporting a service, they can simply prompt the user if they'd like to enable that "higher quality" call, or video call. When someone send a text message, a similar prompt appears.
I'm not talking about a different app, with different login and authentication. I'm talking about an integrated experience, one that is high in quality and easy on network packets.
The problem with Samsung is that they're on very good terms with carriers. They'll be a much better brand if they let go of that relationship and build a better one with the consumer.
soliloquist - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
I think that Samsung should be given credit for bucking the trend from the last several years and making a thicker and heavier phone so that they could put in a bigger battery. To me this makes a ton of sense.Also they brought back the microSD slot which again should be applauded.
Lolimaster - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
If Apple actually removes the 3.5mm jack they will be in the land where thin is simply too thin and starts to be uncomfortable.Lolimaster - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
I would love 8-8.5mm giving the phone more space for cooling and battery, even better cameras.ikjadoon - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Agreed. +1zeeBomb - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
So...there's no synaptics pressure sensitive display here?Burns101 - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
NVME storage?Eden-K121D - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
i seriously hoped for it but guess well have to wait for the full review or UFS 2.00iron - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
They removed IR blaster? S6 is great with it, but why?Chaser - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
An awesome phone that hit's all the rough spots the S6 has. But I cannot stand Touch Wiz and the carrier bloat. Love my NEXUS 6P!nerd1 - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
Expensive nexus phone = oxymoronEden-K121D - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
are u dumbDobson123 - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
In Europe, the new Nexus devices were/are just too expensive. In Germany, the Nexus 5X did cost more than the Galaxy S6 for months. Just no.anananananantechhh - Sunday, February 21, 2016 - link
One thing I'm confused by is if the Edge model's screen has a different aspect ratio than the standard S7. Is it still 16:9, or is it like 16:10? If you load a YouTube video on the Edge, are the top and bottom of the video going to be warped?s.yu - Thursday, February 25, 2016 - link
Still 16:9, yes, "warped", but good for 21:9 movies.zodiacfml - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Impressive. They fixed and improve a lot of things from the S6 especially the battery and memory expansion. I loved the idea of a 12MP or less image sensor but learning it as a Dual Pixel technology, it is technically close to a 24MP sensor. The wider aperture is also impressive but as mentioned already, corner sharpness/quality might suffer. Last thing missing for me is Samsung to make a Nexus.s.yu - Thursday, February 25, 2016 - link
"close to a 24MP sensor", exactly, but outputting 12MP images, just with the complexity(or more) of a 24MP sensor. This could cause problems. I wonder how much of each pixelsite is blocked by wiring...vortmax2 - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Any confirmation on the pressure sensitive display rumors?Dobson123 - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Samsung would've said something about it, if they had implemented it.vortmax2 - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Will there be a developer edition available at some point?khon - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
Looks like a great phone, but I'm not a big fan of the curved display, and the display on the normal S7 is too small for me. Hope they will release a larger version as well.cyberfrost - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
You may want to wait for Note 6 and hope Samsung makes it available in your countryRefuge - Tuesday, February 23, 2016 - link
Thats what this guy is doing, Note 6 baby!bschuler2011 - Friday, February 26, 2016 - link
Same here. I also want white.. so I might hold out for a S7+Murloc - Monday, February 22, 2016 - link
the most interesting thing for me is the fact that ports don't have antiwater plugs. Those plugs break off and stuff and are a nuisance when you need access.s.yu - Thursday, February 25, 2016 - link
It's not that interesting, Sony already had it for a few generations, but good for Samsung to bring it in anyways.What's interesting now is that with Samsung waterproof, what advantage, if any, does the Sony flagship have...It also looks uglier than the last generation.
superflex - Tuesday, February 23, 2016 - link
Sammy took a cue from Apple with the S6 by using breakable glass on the front and rear panelsNow they have gone full retard and added glass to the side panels.
And the sheeple say Baaaahhhhhhh
zeeBomb - Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - link
And I say...100th comment. This phone is beautiful.s.yu - Thursday, February 25, 2016 - link
+1Wolfpup - Wednesday, March 2, 2016 - link
The most important point about Samsung phones (and LG, and most all Android units...) remains that they ship with an out of date OS, and won't get timely OS updates if they get them at all.In the modern world, they're not safe, and are ludicrous products.
Buy a Nexus if you want Android. It's the only legitimate choice.
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