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  • LiverpoolFC5903 - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    Another low end chip masquerading as a mid range solution. Single channel memory again, ARMs weakest 8 series GPU and a relatively low clockspeed.. Meh
  • BurntMyBacon - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    @LiverpoolFC5903: "Another low end chip masquerading as a mid range solution. Single channel memory again, ARMs weakest 8 series GPU and a relatively low clockspeed.. Meh"

    You mad bro?

    Is it because the new so called midrange isn't up to the performance that you expected with a two node + finfet process improvement?

    I'll bet it's because the new so called midrange isn't up to the performance that you expected with a two node + finfet process improvement.
  • jjj - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    The perf is less than what others offer on 28nm.Might have lower power unless their modem is power hungry. Mediatek Helio P10 goes up to 2GHz and has better GPU today on 28nm with rather good battery life.
    vs others going FinFet they offer a lot less perf. P20 at 2.3GHz and claimed 50% faster GPU than in the P10 while SD625 at 2GHz(maybe more) and a GPU perf that is likely to be plenty higher than here.

    Samsung is wasting resources designing chips like this, they would be better off with dual A72+ some A53 on any process to boost the user experience on their midrange phones.
  • LiverpoolFC5903 - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    You nailed it. Considering the fact that the Helio X10 is clocked at 2.2ghz on a 28nm process, you would think Samsung would at least be in the same ballpark as the 7580 on an advanced 14nm finfet process.

    I bet the A53 can be clocked as 2.5 on a 14nm process, with little loss in efficiency.

    A 2.2 -2.5ghz Cortex A53 based Octa with dual channel memory and a competent GPU would have been more like it for the upper midrange. I mean the likes of galaxy A7 and A8...

    As it stands, even the Mt6752 is probably faster than this. We are talking about a 2 year old SOC that has been used in 200 USD phones.

    I simply don't see any value in this chipset for midrange phones. Apart from lower manufacturing costs due to increased vertical integration, I don't see Samsung getting a lot of traction with this chipset.
  • jjj - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    To be fair the X10 is rather power hungry but the P10 on 28 HPC+ is a different matter and should have significantly better battery than even the MT6752.
  • psychobriggsy - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    I have a 7580 in my phone (S5 Neo). It's fine, the only app that struggles sometimes is Facebook, and let's be honest, Android Facebook would struggle on an octo-core A72 at 3GHz. Battery life is pretty good, and will only get better with this.

    Also, two mid-range 14nm designs indicates that Samsung's 14nm process is maturing.
  • rpg1966 - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    I love that an 8-core processor running at 1.6GHz with an integrated GPU and modem etc etc is considered low-end :-)

    Remember when the first 1GHz CPU came out? Remember when CPUs ran at 1Mhz? I know it's different, but still... I love it!
  • nandnandnand - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    2020: These low-end 16 core chips masquerading as the new so called midrange SUCK!
  • thope - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    Good to see sammy trying to be a chip oem. Since apple is sucking up tsmc chips. Samsung needs these smaller wins. I think I read somewhere that samsung is going to fab qualcomm chips. Hopefully this happens. missing android cpu parity with iOS.
  • frenchy_2001 - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    If the table is correct, they are.
    Samsung has a 14nm FF process. TSMC has a 16nm FF process, so the Snapdragon 625 is probably manufactured at Samsung...
  • Anato - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    Not happy, would prefer 1x A72 & 2x A53.

    Yes its cheaper, but 8x 1.6GHz is just useless in most use cases.
  • LiverpoolFC5903 - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    The problem is not the use of 8 A53 cores. The clock speed, gpu and single channel RAM are the aspects that make this a shitty soc for the midrange. e
  • lilmoe - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    Andrei, I know you already got your hands on a GS7 sample (don't deny). Probably even both Snapdragon and Exynos variants. Any chance for an early overview at least?
  • phoenix_rizzen - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    If, and that's a very big IF, he has a device, the number of NDAs and press embargoes that came along with it wouldn't let anyone say anything about it until after the official unveiling by Samsung.
  • Andrei Frumusanu - Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - link

    Sorry to disappoint but no I don't have any device yet. Although I'm looking to try to get both variants if possible...
  • lilmoe - Friday, February 19, 2016 - link

    Thanks for replying. Would also be nice if you can get your hands on an LG G5 and put all three for an in-depth comparison. Would be interesting to see how different kernel implementations/governers affect efficiency of the same chip (SD820, which doesn't support big.LITTLE), and how both Samsung and LG's SD820s compare to the Exynos (and big.LITTLE).

    I believe it's an opportunity since it's the first time a Snapdragon and an Exynos are built on the same process.
  • vipanranout - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - link

    This SoC from samsung is comparable to Qualcomm Snapdragon 650 in terms of gaming performance thanks to great software optimization done by samsung in its phones. Also thermal performance is better hence the SoC runs cooler when stressed for longer periods. It might be lacking some capabilities but OEMs never utilize all of them in mid-range devices.

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