Apple (and Microsoft, for that matter) have repeatedly shown that there is more value in suing the vendor that is USING the technology rather than the one that is providing it. Better to damage the reputation of the brand actually competing with you than one that may be supplying you as well.
The FAQ for the HTC One m7 says it has a dual domain pixel display. And as the article itself notes, medical imaging equipment manufacturers also use that term. Also, Apple never claimed it was unique. Just that they improved viewing angles.
I think they were called super LCD (sLCD) & is referred to by apple as "sRGB" & like super LCD it's capable of giving OLED contrast & accurate colors with great contrast, not like oled but close.
something seems off.. hardly any information to be found about a technology that is in an HTC phone that is over a year old...announced by LG 3+ years ago...
Proof that technology for technology's sake isn't that interesting to the majority. People care about it when Apple uses it because they have a reputation for high quality and making technology usable. We can argue all day about whether that's the case or whether other companies make things just as well... but it's perception and mindshare that's important in this case.
In short, articles are written about technology that Apple uses because people care about the technology that Apple uses and the article will get more views.
Data GPRS Yes EDGE Yes Speed HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; EV-DO Rev. A, up to 3.1 Mbps; LTE, Cat4, 150 Mbps DL, 50 Mbps UL WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi hotspot Bluetooth v4.0, A2DP NFC Yes USB v2.0
Camera Primary 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, optical image stabilization, autofocus, dual-LED (dual tone) flash Features 1.5µm pixel size, geo-tagging, simultaneous HD video and image recording, touch focus, face and smile detection, image stabilization, panorama, HDR Video 1080p@60fps, 720p@240fps, optical image stabilization Secondary 1.2 MP, 720p, burst, HDR
Features OS iOS 8 Chipset Apple A8 CPU TBA Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer Messaging iMessage, SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email Browser HTML (Safari) Radio No GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS Java No Colors Space Gray, Silver, Gold - Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic - AirDrop file sharing - Siri natural language commands and dictation - iCloud cloud service - iCloud Keychain - Twitter and Facebook integration - TV-out - Maps - iBooks PDF reader - Audio/video player/editor - Organizer - Document viewer/editor - Photo viewer/editor - Voice memo/dial/command - Predictive text input
Battery Non-removable Li-Po battery Stand-by (2G) / Up to 384 h (3G) Talk time (2G) / Up to 24 h (3G) Music play Up to 80 h
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 128 GB Internal 32 GB, 3 GB RAM
Data GPRS Yes EDGE Yes Speed HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA; LTE, Cat4 (N910C), Cat6 (N910S), 50 Mbps UL, 300 Mbps (N910S), 150 Mbps (N910C) DL WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot Bluetooth v4.1, A2DP, EDR, LE NFC Yes Infrared port Yes USB microUSB v2.0 (MHL 3), USB Host, USB On-the-go
Camera Primary 16 MP, 3456 x 4608 pixels, LED flash Features Autofocus, Touch to focus, Manual focus, Digital image stabilization, Optical image stabilization, Face detection, Smile detection, Exposure compensation, ISO control, White balance presets, Burst mode, Digital zoom, Geo tagging, High Dynamic Range mode (HDR), Panorama, Macro mode, Night mode, Scenes, Effects, Self-timer, Voice activation, Dual Shot, Simultaneous HD video and image recording, geo-tagging Video 3840x2160 (4K) (30 fps), 1920x1080 (1080p HD) (60 fps) Features: Optical image stabilization, Continuous autofocus, Picture-taking during video recording.
Secondary 3.7 MP, 1080p@30fps,
Features OS Android OS, v4.4.4 (KitKat) Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 (SM-N910S) Exynos 5433 (SM-N910C) CPU Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450 (SM-N910S) Quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 & 1.9GHz quad-core Cortex-A57 (SM-N910C) GPU Adreno 420 (SM-N910S) Mali-T760 (SM-N910C) Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, gesture, UV, heart rate, SpO2 Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM Browser HTML5 Radio TBC GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS, Beidou Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator Colors Frosted white, Charcoal black, Bronze Gold, Blossom Pink - ANT+ support - S-Voice natural language commands and dictation - Air gestures - Dropbox (50 GB cloud storage) - SNS integration - Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic - TV-out (via MHL A/V link) - MP4/DivX/XviD/WMV/H.264/H.263 player - MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3/FLAC player - Organizer - Photo/video editor - Document viewer(Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF) - Google Search, Maps, Gmail, YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa - Voice memo/dial/commands - Predictive text input (Swype)
Yoshida and an apple fellow being associate editors in the IEEE Journal of Display Technology probably doesn't hurt knowing and leveraging technologies, either http://t.co/5YslTMh7r7
In the launch announcement, Apple announced that their new display had dual domain pixels, which improved viewing angles.
should be
In the launch announcement, Apple announced that their new display had dual domain pixels, ((( WITH ))) improved viewing angles.
I am not a grammar cop or anything like that I i actually tried to look for a way to PM you but once you see this please correct and just delete my comment and the earths orbit will be back to normal hahha later gator
and further-more i actually agree with apples decision because ...the fact remains ...the more the spaces between pixels are more noticeable (the blackies) ...the more the resultant images or sequences show more artifacts. just a personal note ...but from actual testing ...if the eye can see margins / boundaries then it naturally wants to differentiate objects and selectively segregate them as SEPARATE objects or at least the edges of those objects.
The apple way, selling over expensive crap to stupid consumers that like to get robbed.
This has been a disastrous launch in every respect. The iwatch is such a ugly piece of crap, it is truly unbelievable how a company, formerly known for its remarkable design, dares to put out such a crap ton of shit. Some characteristics are glaringly obvious and inherent to it: over expensive, hardly innovative, limited functionality and usability (need of an iPhone to make it work), looks exactly like a toy watch and so on.
There are of course way better smart watches out there, especially form the likes of Samsung, Sony, Motorola, Asus, LG, simply put, there is no need for another piece of over expensive junk.
The iPhone 6 is technologically stuck in pre-2011 times, a base model witch a capacity of 16GB without the possibility to use SD cards isn't even funny anymore. The screen resolution is horrendous, it isn't water proof, shock and dust resistant, it offers nothing innovative, just some incremental updates over its predecessor, both lacking severely behind their competitors at their respective launch dates.
Now the Iphone 6 Plus offers a „Retina HD“ screen, full 1920x1080p, oh wow, where have you been for the past 4 years apple, talk about trailing behind. That’s pathetic. The interesting thing about that is the fact that apple always manages to sell backwards oriented, outdated crap to its user base, all while pretending to be an innovative technology leader. The similarities regarding any form of sectarian cult are striking.
You gotta love how Apple always comes up with new marketing bullshit terms, aka "Retina HD", with the intention to manipulate its users while preventing easy comparisons with its competitors by withholding the actual specs. Apparently it’s not enough to have a 1080p screen, you have to call it "Retina HD" to make those suckers buy it, otherwise someone could look at the 4K Amoled and Oled screens form LG and Samsung devices and get outright disappointed. Same goes for everything else. Every outdated „feature“ needs to get its own marketing label to persuade buyers with crappy „experience“ and „usability“ ads, while covering the truth with marketing gibberish, knowing full well that only a fraction of aforementioned buyers cares to look at the facts and dares to compare them.
Car engines come to mind. For comparisons shake let’s look at a 1.0 liter, turbo charged petrol engine and a V8 compressor. What’s better should be obvious, but by calling the former an „ecobooster“, thus giving it a special marketing label, this joke becomes a „feature“, something positive that can be added tot the list of features of a car.
By doing so a negative aspect is transformed into a positive one, the reality is distorted, non tech savvy buyers are manipulated and comparisons are made more difficult (another layer of marketing bullshit to overcome), well done marketing department. You see , if something is seriously lacking (of course for profit, what else), don’t bother explaining, just give it a nice marketing term, distort reality, make it a feature and call it a day. Fuck that!!
The Apple Iphone 1 and Ipad 1 might have been innovative at their time, but since then, the bitten apple has been continuously rotting from the inside outwards, always swarmed by millions of Iworms which regale themselves with its rotten flesh, not forgetting all other Americans who support apple by means of their tax dollars to finance its bought US Treasury/Government bond interest rates.
Last but not least, every Apple product includes a direct hotlink to the nsa, free of charge, something that might make it a good value, after all.
Nice rant numb****. You really should get off that couch and participate in some healthy activity. All that indoor, stagnant air has rotted your mind into a jealous, hateful lowlife. Oh, and enjoy your crappy Droid, son.
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SilthDraeth - Tuesday, September 9, 2014 - link
Looking forward to Apple suing HTC for using dual domain pixels.euskalzabe - Tuesday, September 9, 2014 - link
HAHAHA so true!eanazag - Tuesday, September 9, 2014 - link
True, but no one has felt threatened by HTC in a few years.GC2:CS - Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - link
What ? They have an 10 year licensing agreement. They can license everything Apple uses and other way around.Impulses - Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - link
They'd sue the panel maker, if anything, not HTC... Except Apple doesn't make their own displays either, so yeah.abhaxus - Saturday, September 13, 2014 - link
Apple (and Microsoft, for that matter) have repeatedly shown that there is more value in suing the vendor that is USING the technology rather than the one that is providing it. Better to damage the reputation of the brand actually competing with you than one that may be supplying you as well.jameskatt - Monday, September 15, 2014 - link
That did not stop Apple from suing Samsung.iwod - Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - link
They have a patents agreement for a long time.tipoo - Tuesday, September 9, 2014 - link
Hm, we've seen quite a few phones with wavy pixels like that, just never named that.lukewayne - Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - link
apple loves to make up names for things that already exist in the wild and claim them as unique.KPOM - Saturday, September 13, 2014 - link
The FAQ for the HTC One m7 says it has a dual domain pixel display. And as the article itself notes, medical imaging equipment manufacturers also use that term. Also, Apple never claimed it was unique. Just that they improved viewing angles.JayQ330 - Tuesday, January 20, 2015 - link
I think they were called super LCD (sLCD) & is referred to by apple as "sRGB" & like super LCD it's capable of giving OLED contrast & accurate colors with great contrast, not like oled but close.lukewayne - Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - link
something seems off.. hardly any information to be found about a technology that is in an HTC phone that is over a year old...announced by LG 3+ years ago...B3an - Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - link
It's really sad that no one mentions this until fucking Apple use it. Tech writers are like sheep.Spunjji - Thursday, September 11, 2014 - link
I second that comment. I've seen those pixel arrangements for years and nobody ever bothered mentioning why they existed until now.ianmills - Thursday, September 11, 2014 - link
HAHA whenever I saw that pixel configuration before I just assumed it was becase the guy taking the picture wasn't holding his hand steadyAlexey291 - Monday, September 15, 2014 - link
thanks you made me smile ianmills :3Alexey291 - Monday, September 15, 2014 - link
ah well if apple made it its the last word in tech and anandtech must have an article on it :)bluemeansgo - Tuesday, July 7, 2015 - link
Proof that technology for technology's sake isn't that interesting to the majority. People care about it when Apple uses it because they have a reputation for high quality and making technology usable. We can argue all day about whether that's the case or whether other companies make things just as well... but it's perception and mindshare that's important in this case.In short, articles are written about technology that Apple uses because people care about the technology that Apple uses and the article will get more views.
MarkEduard - Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - link
iPhone 6+ specs:General
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - A1522 (GSM), A1522 (CDMA), A1524
CDMA 800 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - A1522 (CDMA), A1524
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - A1522 (GSM), A1522 (CDMA), A1524
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - A1522 (CDMA), A1524
4G Network LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 / 850 - A1522 (GSM), A1522 (CDMA)
LTE 700 / 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2300 / 2600 / 750 / 2500 - A1524
SIM Nano-SIM
Body
Dimensions 158.1 x 77.8 x 7.1 mm (6.22 x 3.06 x 0.28 in)
Weight 172 g (6.07 oz)
- 500 dpi pixel density fingerprint sensor (Touch ID)
Display
Type LED-backlit IPS LCD, capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 1080 x 1920 pixels, 5.5 inches (~401 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Shatter proof glass, oleophobic coating
Sound
Alert types Vibration, proprietary ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory
Card slot No
Internal 16/64/128 GB
Data
GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; EV-DO Rev. A, up to 3.1 Mbps; LTE, Cat4, 150 Mbps DL, 50 Mbps UL
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth v4.0, A2DP
NFC Yes
USB v2.0
Camera
Primary 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, optical image stabilization, autofocus, dual-LED (dual tone) flash
Features 1.5µm pixel size, geo-tagging, simultaneous HD video and image recording, touch focus, face and smile detection, image stabilization, panorama, HDR
Video 1080p@60fps, 720p@240fps, optical image stabilization
Secondary 1.2 MP, 720p, burst, HDR
Features
OS iOS 8
Chipset Apple A8
CPU TBA
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer
Messaging iMessage, SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email
Browser HTML (Safari)
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
Java No
Colors Space Gray, Silver, Gold
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- AirDrop file sharing
- Siri natural language commands and dictation
- iCloud cloud service
- iCloud Keychain
- Twitter and Facebook integration
- TV-out
- Maps
- iBooks PDF reader
- Audio/video player/editor
- Organizer
- Document viewer/editor
- Photo viewer/editor
- Voice memo/dial/command
- Predictive text input
Battery
Non-removable Li-Po battery
Stand-by (2G) / Up to 384 h (3G)
Talk time (2G) / Up to 24 h (3G)
Music play Up to 80 h
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 specs:
General
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
SIM Micro-SIM
Body
Dimensions 153.5 x 78.6 x 8.5 mm (6.04 x 3.09 x 0.33 in)
Weight 176 g (6.21 oz)
- S Pen stylus
- Fingerprint sensor
Display
Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 1440 x 2560 pixels, 5.7 inches (~515 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Sound
Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory
Card slot microSD, up to 128 GB
Internal 32 GB, 3 GB RAM
Data
GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA; LTE, Cat4 (N910C), Cat6 (N910S), 50 Mbps UL, 300 Mbps (N910S), 150 Mbps (N910C) DL
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth v4.1, A2DP, EDR, LE
NFC Yes
Infrared port Yes
USB microUSB v2.0 (MHL 3), USB Host, USB On-the-go
Camera
Primary 16 MP, 3456 x 4608 pixels, LED flash
Features Autofocus, Touch to focus, Manual focus, Digital image stabilization, Optical image stabilization, Face detection, Smile detection, Exposure compensation, ISO control, White balance presets, Burst mode, Digital zoom, Geo tagging, High Dynamic Range mode (HDR), Panorama, Macro mode, Night mode, Scenes, Effects, Self-timer, Voice activation, Dual Shot, Simultaneous HD video and image recording, geo-tagging
Video 3840x2160 (4K) (30 fps), 1920x1080 (1080p HD) (60 fps)
Features:
Optical image stabilization, Continuous autofocus, Picture-taking during video recording.
Secondary 3.7 MP, 1080p@30fps,
Features
OS Android OS, v4.4.4 (KitKat)
Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 (SM-N910S)
Exynos 5433 (SM-N910C)
CPU Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450 (SM-N910S)
Quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 & 1.9GHz quad-core Cortex-A57 (SM-N910C)
GPU Adreno 420 (SM-N910S)
Mali-T760 (SM-N910C)
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, gesture, UV, heart rate, SpO2
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM
Browser HTML5
Radio TBC
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS, Beidou
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Frosted white, Charcoal black, Bronze Gold, Blossom Pink
- ANT+ support
- S-Voice natural language commands and dictation
- Air gestures
- Dropbox (50 GB cloud storage)
- SNS integration
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- TV-out (via MHL A/V link)
- MP4/DivX/XviD/WMV/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3/FLAC player
- Organizer
- Photo/video editor
- Document viewer(Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa
- Voice memo/dial/commands
- Predictive text input (Swype)
Battery
3,220 mAh battery
now CHOOSE!
eduo - Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - link
(sent to @anandtech over twitter, silly me)Do we know if it's actually this specific version or an evolution of the technology? Vertically-aligned instead of slanted, for example?
Hidefumi Yoshida published a technical paper not long ago specifying a process to generate vertically-aligned dual-domain TFT displays:
http://t.co/JCpKM9Gwau
Is seems the iPhone 6+'s display is Sharp's. And Yoshida, author of that paper, is Sharp's Chief Technical Reasearch Fellow
https://t.co/BArwbMu3Oo
Yoshida and an apple fellow being associate editors in the IEEE Journal of Display Technology probably doesn't hurt knowing and leveraging technologies, either http://t.co/5YslTMh7r7
lilo777 - Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - link
Great technology! Almost as good as AMOLED.KPOM - Saturday, September 13, 2014 - link
I notice that the HTC One m7 uses dual domain IPS, but there is no mention of it on the m8. Did they change, and was there a reason why?anderct - Monday, September 15, 2014 - link
right in the beginning heres a heads upIn the launch announcement, Apple announced that their new display had dual domain pixels, which improved viewing angles.
should be
In the launch announcement, Apple announced that their new display had dual domain pixels, ((( WITH ))) improved viewing angles.
I am not a grammar cop or anything like that I i actually tried to look for a way to PM you but once you see this please correct and just delete my comment and the earths orbit will be back to normal hahha later gator
anderct - Monday, September 15, 2014 - link
who would have thunk ?! (yes that's a word) jagged edges would come back to HELP us when we tried so hard to eliminate them.anderct - Monday, September 15, 2014 - link
and further-more i actually agree with apples decision because ...the fact remains ...the more the spaces between pixels are more noticeable (the blackies) ...the more the resultant images or sequences show more artifacts. just a personal note ...but from actual testing ...if the eye can see margins / boundaries then it naturally wants to differentiate objects and selectively segregate them as SEPARATE objects or at least the edges of those objects.AppleCrappleHater2 - Wednesday, September 17, 2014 - link
Worship the holy apple.The apple way, selling over expensive crap to stupid consumers that like to
get robbed.
This has been a disastrous launch in every respect. The iwatch is such a
ugly piece of crap, it is truly unbelievable how a company, formerly known for
its remarkable design, dares to put out such a crap ton of shit. Some
characteristics are glaringly obvious and inherent to it: over expensive,
hardly innovative, limited functionality and usability (need of an iPhone to
make it work), looks exactly like a toy watch and so on.
There are of course way better smart watches out there, especially form the
likes of Samsung, Sony, Motorola, Asus, LG, simply put, there is no need for
another piece of over expensive junk.
The iPhone 6 is technologically stuck in pre-2011 times, a base model witch
a capacity of 16GB without the possibility to use SD cards isn't even funny
anymore. The screen resolution is horrendous, it isn't water proof, shock and
dust resistant, it offers nothing innovative, just some incremental
updates over its predecessor, both lacking severely behind their competitors at
their respective launch dates.
Now the Iphone 6 Plus offers a „Retina HD“ screen, full 1920x1080p, oh wow,
where have you been for the past 4 years apple, talk about trailing behind.
That’s pathetic. The interesting thing about that is the fact that apple
always manages to sell backwards oriented, outdated crap to its user base, all
while pretending to be an innovative technology leader. The similarities
regarding any form of sectarian cult are striking.
You gotta love how Apple always comes up with new marketing bullshit terms,
aka "Retina HD", with the intention to manipulate its users while preventing easy
comparisons with its competitors by withholding the actual specs. Apparently it’s
not enough to have a 1080p screen, you have to call it "Retina HD" to make those
suckers buy it, otherwise someone could look at the 4K Amoled and Oled screens
form LG and Samsung devices and get outright disappointed. Same goes for
everything else. Every outdated „feature“ needs to get its own marketing label
to persuade buyers with crappy „experience“ and „usability“ ads, while covering
the truth with marketing gibberish, knowing full well that only a fraction of
aforementioned buyers cares to look at the facts and dares to compare them.
Car engines come to mind. For comparisons shake let’s look at a 1.0 liter, turbo
charged petrol engine and a V8 compressor. What’s better should be obvious, but
by calling the former an „ecobooster“, thus giving it a special marketing label,
this joke becomes a „feature“, something positive that can be added tot the list
of features of a car.
By doing so a negative aspect is transformed into a positive one, the
reality is distorted, non tech savvy buyers are manipulated and comparisons are
made more difficult (another layer of marketing bullshit to overcome), well done
marketing department. You see , if something is seriously lacking (of course for
profit, what else), don’t bother explaining, just give it a nice marketing term, distort
reality, make it a feature and call it a day. Fuck that!!
The Apple Iphone 1 and Ipad 1 might have been innovative at their time,
but since then, the bitten apple has been continuously rotting from the inside
outwards, always swarmed by millions of Iworms which regale themselves with its
rotten flesh, not forgetting all other Americans who support apple by means of
their tax dollars to finance its bought US Treasury/Government bond interest rates.
Last but not least, every Apple product includes a direct hotlink to the nsa,
free of charge, something that might make it a good value, after all.
Ceterum censeo Applem esse delendam.
milesmutt - Wednesday, September 17, 2014 - link
Nice rant numb****. You really should get off that couch and participate in some healthy activity. All that indoor, stagnant air has rotted your mind into a jealous, hateful lowlife. Oh, and enjoy your crappy Droid, son.batongxue - Thursday, September 18, 2014 - link
You can't sleep at night, can you?When you do fall asleep, Apple is your everyday nightmare, isn't it?
batongxue - Thursday, September 18, 2014 - link
So when is the iPhone 6 an iPhone 6 Plus review coming out?Can't wait!