Test Bed and Setup: Moving Towards 2024

As per our processor testing policy, we take a premium category motherboard suitable for the socket, and equip the system with a suitable amount of memory running at the manufacturer's highest officially-supported frequency. This is also typically run at JEDEC subtimings where possible. It is noted that some users are not keen on this policy, stating that sometimes the highest official frequency is quite low, or faster memory is available at a similar price, or that the JEDEC speeds can be prohibitive for performance.

While these comments make sense, ultimately very few users apply memory profiles (either XMP or other) as they require interaction with the BIOS, and most users will fall back on JEDEC-supported speeds - this includes home users as well as industry who might want to shave off a cent or two from the cost or stay within the margins set by the manufacturer. Where possible, we will extend out testing to include faster memory modules either at the same time as the review or a later date.

The Current CPU Test Suite

For our AMD Ryzen 8000G series testing, including the Ryzen 7 8700G and Ryzen 5 8600G, we are using the following test system. We have also included our test system of AMD's Ryzen 7 5700G and Ryzen 5 5600 too:

  AMD Ryzen 8000G AMD Ryzen 5000G 
CPU Ryzen 7 8700G ($329)
8 Cores, 16 Threads
65 W TDP

Ryzen 5 8600G ($229)
6 Cores, 12 Threads
65 W TDP
AMD Ryzen 7 5700G ($359)
8 Cores, 16 Threads
65 W TDP

Ryzen 5 5600G ($259)
6 Cores, 12 Threads
65 W TDP
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B650-A Gaming WIFI ASUS ROG Strix X570-E Gaming
Memory G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo
2x16 GB
DDR5-5200 CL44
G.Skill Trident Z
2x16 GB
DDR4-3200 CL22
Cooling MSI MAG Coreliquid E360 360mm AIO MSI MAG Coreliquid E360 360mm AIO
Storage SK Hynix Platinum P41 2TB PCIe 4.0 x4 SK Hynix Platinum P41 2TB PCIe 4.0 x4
Power Supply MSI A1000G 1000W MSI A1000G 1000W
GPUs AMD Radeon RX 6950 XT, 31.0.12019 AMD Radeon RX 6950 XT, 31.0.12019
Operating Systems Windows 11 22H2 Windows 11 22H2

Our CPU 2024 Suite: What to Expect

We recently updated the CPU test suite to our 2023, but we've decided to update it again as we head into 2024. Our new suite has a more diverse selection of tests and benchmarks, focusing on real-world instruction sets and newer encoding and decoding libraries such as AV1, VP9, and HVEC. We have also included a range of AI-focused workloads and benchmarks, as we're seeing a direct shift from manufacturers to incorporate some form of on-chip AI processing, such as Ryzen AI and Intel's Meteor Lake AI NPU.

While we've kept some of the more popular ones, such as CineBench R23, we've added Maxon's latest CineBench 2024 benchmark to our test suite. We have also updated to the latest versions (at the time of incorporating the suite) in benchmarks such as Blender, V-Ray, and y-Cruncher.

With our processor reviews, especially on a new generational product such as Intel's Core i9-13900K/14900K, we also include SPEC2017 data to account for any increases (or decreases) to generational single-threaded and multi-threaded performance. It should be noted that per the terms of the SPEC license because our benchmark results are not vetted directly by the SPEC consortium, it is officially classified as an ‘estimated’ score.

We've also carried over some older (but still relevant/enlightening) benchmarks from our CPU 2023 suite. This includes benchmarks such as Dwarf Fortress, Factorio, Dr. Ian Cutress's 3DPMv2 benchmark, Blender 3.3, C-Ray 1.1 rendering, SciMark 2.0, and Primesieve 1.9.0. We've also kept UL's Procyon suite as a more holisitc system-wide test.

As for gaming, we're currently still revamping our CPU 2024 games suite, and as a result, we've tested gaming against our CPU 2023 suite. You can rest assured that our CPU 2024 games suite will be uploaded to the latest titles and will include even more technical aspects in play, such as Ray-Tracing, as this directly impacts CPU performance and frame rates. We will also include a similar methodology in terms of resolutions, including 720p/lower, 1080p, 1440p, and 4K.

The CPU-focused tests featured specifically in this review are as follows:

Power

  • Peak Power (y-Cruncher using AVX)
  • Power analysis with CineBench R23 MT + F1 2022 @ 1080p/High Preset

Productivity & Web

  • UL Procyon Office: Various office-based tasks using various Microsoft Office applications
  • UL Procyon Video Editing: Scores video editing performance on various parameters using Adobe Premiere software
  • LibreOffice: Time taken to convert 20 documents to PDF
  • JetStream 2.1 Benchmark: Measures various levels of web performance within a browser (we use the latest available Chrome)
  • Timed Linux Kernel Compilation: How long it takes to compile a Linux build with the standard settings
  • Timed PHP Compilation: How long does it take to compile PHP
  • MariaDB: A MySQL database benchmark using mysqlslap

Encoding

  • WebP2 Image Encode: Encoding benchmark using the WebP2 format
  • SVT AV1 Encoding: Encoding using AV1 at both 1080p and 4K, at different settings
  • Dav1D AV1 Benchmark: A simple AV1 based benchmark
  • SVT-HEVC Encoding: Same as SVT AV1, but with HEVC, at both 1080p and 4K
  • SVT-VP9 Encoding: Same as other SVT benchmarks, but using VP9, both at 1080p and 4K
  • FFmpeg 6.0 Benchmark: Benchmarking with x264 and x265 using a live scenario
  • FLAC Audio Encoding: Benchmarking audio encoding from WAV to FLAC
  • 7-Zip: A fabled benchmark we've used before, but updated to the latest version

Rendering

  • Blender 3.6: Popular rendering program
  • CineBench R23: The fabled Cinema4D Rendering engine
  • CineBench 2024: The latest Cinema4D Rendering engine
  • V-Ray: Another popular renderer
  • POV-Ray: A persistence of ray-tracing benchmark

Science & Simulation

  • y-Cruncher 0.8.2.9523: Calculating Pi to 5M digits, both ST and MT
  • 3D Particle Movement v2.1 (Non-AVX + AVX2/AVX512)
  • Primesieve 1.9.0: This test generates prime numbers using an optimized sieve of Eratosthenes implementation
  • Montage Astro Image Mosaic Engine: Benchmarking of an open-sourced mosaic engine via California Institute of Technology
  • OpenFOAM: A Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) benchmark using drivaerFastback test case to analyze automotive aerodynamics.
  • Dwarf Fortress 0.44.12: Fantasy world creation and time passage
  • Factorio v1.1.26 Test: A game-based benchmark that is largely consistent for measuring overall CPU and memory performance
  • 3D Mark CPU Profile: Benchmark testing just the CPU with multiple levels of thread usage

AI and Inferencing

  • ONNX Runtime: A Microsoft developed open source machine learning and inferencing accelerator
  • DeepSpeech: A Mozilla based speech-to-text engine benchmark powered by TensorFlow
  • TensorFlow 2.12: A TensorFlow benchmark using the deep learning framework
  • UL Procyon Windows AI Inference: A benchmark by UL measuring total inference counts across multiple libraries

We are currently using our games from our CPU 2023 suite. Our current games in our CPU testing and those featured in this review are as follows:

  • Civilization VI: 480p, 1080p, 1440p and 4K (both avg and 95% percentile)
  • World of Tanks: 768p, 1080p, and 4K (both avg and 95% percentile)
  • Borderlands 3: 360p, 1080p, 1440p, and 4K (both avg and 95th percentile)
  • Red Dead Redemption 2: 384p, 1080p, 1440p, and 4K (both avg and 95th percentile)
  • F1 2022: 720p, 1080p, 1440p, and 4K (both avg and 95th percentile)
  • Hitman 3: 720p, 1080p, 1440p, and 4K (both avg and 95th percentile)
  • Total War Warhammer 3: 720p, 1080p, 1440p and 4K (only avg fps measured)

As we have mentioned, we are updating our CPU 2024 suite with new games and the latest titles, and this will come before the next CPU review we publish.

While we normally analyze Core-to-Core latency on new CPUs, the fact that Intel's 14th and 13th Gen are identical architecturally, we opted to omit this from our testing.

AMD Ryzen 7 8700G and Ryzen 5 8600G Review: Zen 4 APUs with RDNA3 Graphics Core-to-Core Latency
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  • TheinsanegamerN - Wednesday, January 31, 2024 - link

    If its being sold as a desktop chip it should be compared against the desktop chips it is competing against. If I am building a mini desktop with an APU the 7840u is irrelevant.
  • meacupla - Wednesday, January 31, 2024 - link

    Which, again, is hilarious.
    The facts point to 8700G and AM5 platform costing too much to make sense. If you want a cost effective gaming setup, you are better off with an i3 or R5 with dGPU.

    8700G's one niche is ultra compact mITX without a dGPU. But if you go that route, it's now competing with.... oh look at that, the mini-PC segment.
  • maxijazz - Saturday, February 3, 2024 - link

    Low power APUs as 7840, 8x00G are perfect for fanless (noiseless) mini desktops (audio servers) used in (so called) computer-audio industry, audio-hobby. Intel sucks in these applications recently.
  • ermg_chips - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link

    What I'm wondering is, are they going to come out with an 8700GE, 8600GE, etc eventually? The 5xxxGE series were the same CPUs but with a TDP set to 35W to fit in the same ultra-compact systems that the 35W intel -T chips do.

    I have a weird reason for caring, I live a nomadic/unstable lifestyle but still like to self-host all my shiz, so cramming as much compute into a "1 liter" PC as possible is important to me, and at my price point, I've been very happy with a 5750GE in a HP EliteDesk Mini stuffed with RAM as a teeny Proxmox box.
  • FWhitTrampoline - Monday, January 29, 2024 - link

    It's just too bad that Intel did not release any 65W Meteor Lake S Socket Packaged variants As I would rather have built the Intel variant of the ASRock Desk Mini with Meteor Lake instead. And I have to LOL that the Tech Press can only Show the CPU only Blender 3D Cycles Rendering tests as there's no Radeon iGPU ROCm/HIP support for any Blender 3D iGPU accelerated Cycles Rendering testing.

    And Intel's Meteor Lake iGPUs have proper and working iGPU compute API support via Intel's OneAPI/Level-0 whereas on Linux AMD's ROCm/HIP GPU compute API support is just not there for Radeon iGPUs or for most Consumer Radeon dGPUs currently.
  • TheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link

    It still wont fit in your in win chopin.
  • FWhitTrampoline - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link

    I do not own an Inwin Chopin but I do own an ASRock X300 Desk Mini and having to Blender Cycles render on the CPU cores and it's just too much for that OEM cooling solution to handle on the x300 sans any thermal throttling. But Because of the lack of Proper AMD ROCm/HIP support there for the Vega iGPU I can not make use of that for Blender 3D iGPU accelerated Cycles rending where there's plenty more FP units on the iGPU to accelerate the Ray Tracing calculations(Ray Tracing is a Compute Intensive workload).

    And I love how the Tech Press utilizes Blender 3D's CPU Cycles rendering as a CPU stress test and totally ignores any Blender 3D iGPU and dGPU Blender Cycles rendering tests to the point where that's basically ignored and an uncovered subject for the most part. But at least Intel cares more for creators there than AMD! Intel's got it's iGPUs support for Compute Workloads on Linux via OneAPI and Level-0 while AMD just lets the console makers to the hard part of tweaking AMD's APUs for Gaming Graphics workloads only!

    But I'm going to have to wait for Arrow Lake to get any Socket Packaged Intel SKUs with the better Tile Based Graphics on a Desktop/Socket Packaged offering!
  • meacupla - Monday, January 29, 2024 - link

    When you compare the 8700G results to 7840HS (Beelink GTR7), the performance difference is negligible.
    It seems to me that if you don't pair the 8700G with premium RAM, you would be further wasting your money.
  • t.s - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link

    Seconded! With better power consumption too.
  • AndrewJacksonZA - Monday, January 29, 2024 - link

    Question: If a person has an APU, why use Blender CPU only?

    So on float8, there's a 2% difference between the 8700G and the i7-14900K. Wow.

    Thank you

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