Overclocking Ryzen 3000

Experience with the ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3

Sometimes it's assumed that smaller form factor motherboards tend to not overclock as well as larger ATX boards. In the real world, the differences are relatively minute, mostly being limited by cramped builds and cooling that doesn't perform as well. In an open environment, there have been mini-ITX motherboards capable of taking world records. Another issue is that on the smaller boards, there is certainly less room for some componentry and when it comes to overclocking, there is much less room for error with the need for vendors to get things right from the outset. But when the hardware is done right, users shouldn't expect much difference.

From the perspective of overclocking, ASRock's Phantom Gaming firmware is wholesome with plenty of options to overclock both processors and memory. To achieve most overclocks, users only need to concern themselves with settings including CPU Core Frequency, CPU VCore voltage, and with the excessive heat generated by AMD's 7nm desktop processors, adequate cooling. For memory overclocking, users can enable X.M.P profiles within the OC Tweaker section or go about customizing settings through the memory frequency, memory voltage, and the FCLK/Infinity Fabric frequency settings. For more advanced tuning, ASRock offers a DRAM Timing Configurator which allows users to tweak primary, secondary, and tertiary memory settings. 

Aside from a couple of high-performance memory overclocking profiles, enabling Precision Boost Overdrive, and an Eco CPU profile, there is nothing else terms of automatic overclocking options. Unlike some of ASRock's firmware, the main screen actually lacks anything of real substance and users looking to enable X.M.P memory profiles have to navigate around the OC Tweaker section looking for it. It would have been nice to have more options in regards to overclocking profiles, but it's not surprising given the limitations of overclocking the current generation of Ryzen 3000 processors. There's a lot of heat to deal with at what is considered the middle of the run overclocks such as 4.3 GHz, and if and when AMD's second-generation on 7nm comes around, users will be expecting a little more from firmware and core clock speeds.

Overclocking Methodology

Our standard overclocking methodology is as follows. We select the automatic overclock options and test for stability with POV-Ray and OCCT to simulate high-end workloads. These stability tests aim to catch any immediate causes for memory or CPU errors.

For manual overclocks, based on the information gathered from the previous testing, starts off at a nominal voltage and CPU multiplier, and the multiplier is increased until the stability tests are failed. The CPU voltage is increased gradually until the stability tests are passed, and the process repeated until the motherboard reduces the multiplier automatically (due to safety protocol) or the CPU temperature reaches a stupidly high level (105ºC+). Our testbed is not in a case, which should push overclocks higher with fresher (cooler) air.

Overclocking Results

The ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3 is a solid example of VDroop working correctly with the load line calibration settings set to default settings. When manually overclocking, the variation of VDroop ranges from 0.006 V at 4.3 GHz, to 0.013 and 0.019 V on the CPU VCore at full load when compared with what was set in the firmware. All of the VDroop observed was undervolted meaning it had a very positive impact on power consumption at full load, and we experienced very consistent POV-Ray performance as we went up in each 100 MHz increment. 

The highlight is the Eco mode which the firmware states is set to 45 W with our Ryzen 7 3700X processor. This is a 65 W TDP processor and when using the Eco Mode profile, we saw good POV-Ray performance with an equally good showing in power consumption too. In relation to manual overclocks, the Eco Mode on the ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3 performed similarly to our POV-Ray result at 3.8 GHz; not for users looking for high-performance, but perfect for small form factor enthusiasts looking for a good 24/7 mode where heat may be a limiting factor.

Unlike our experience with the GIGABYTE X570 Aorus Xtreme motherboard, enabling precision boost overdrive on the ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3 had little to no effect on performance over the default settings which suggests the firmware is at fault somewhere. Our default run did run a little on the warm side compared to what we have seen in previous X570 reviews and the extra heat can be attributed to a load CPU VCore value of 1.337; there is nothing 'leet' about this and we expected a little better.

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  • DanaGoyette - Thursday, October 10, 2019 - link

    Would you mind checking out the PBO power meters? There are suspicions that the boards are reading 50% of the actual power usage.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/clbolc/x5...
  • DanaGoyette - Thursday, October 10, 2019 - link

    Oops, wrong link.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/cx47ql/th...
  • yetanotherhuman - Thursday, October 10, 2019 - link

    I remember the days of chipset fans. No thanks. I'd rather have a B450 board. (In fact, that's exactly what I bought for my 3600)
  • Sivar - Tuesday, October 15, 2019 - link

    Agreed. If there is one absolute rule I remember from so many years of building PCs, it's "No small fans allowed, especially non-serviceable fans on motherboards. No."
    Yes, fans have become better, but not so much as to violate the cardinal rule of motherboard choice.
  • Dug - Thursday, October 10, 2019 - link

    I for one use TB3 everyday for external storage. Sense this is the highlight of the motherboard it would make sense to test it. Along with networking wireless/ wired, sound, usb, etc. You know, the stuff that is on the motherboard.
  • eek2121 - Sunday, October 13, 2019 - link

    IMO I am definitely for an M.2 boot drive + local storage, but I really wish for 6 sata ports or the ability to squeeze in an extra PCIEx4 slot so we can expand ourselves. You can fit a surprising amount of 2.5" hard drives in mini ITX case. I'm up to nearly 60 TB starting tomorrow.
  • Nikit - Sunday, October 13, 2019 - link

    To all of you longing for 10gbe or extra m.2 slot - this board supports 8x8 bifurcation of the 16x slot.
  • umano - Monday, October 21, 2019 - link

    thank you
  • peevee - Monday, October 14, 2019 - link

    I am surprised to see that the default setting is actually overclock to the long-term unsafe levels (every time you raise the voltage you reduce the longevity AND power efficiency).
  • kgreen747 - Saturday, November 30, 2019 - link

    Why did they not utilize the 4 remaining PCIE lanes from the CPU to drive the TB3 chip or M.2 slot?

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