AMD Announces Ryzen Pro 4000 for Mobile: 8 Cores, 15 W, 4.1 GHzby Dr. Ian Cutress on May 7, 2020 9:01 AM EST
On the back of AMD’s successful Ryzen Mobile 4000 series launch for consumer laptops, the company today launching its range of commercial processors from the same family. These processors are designed for the standard commercial verticals typically associated with company contracts, education deployments, medical use cases and any environment that requires a level of manageability across its workforce. The new AMD processors have up to eight of the latest Zen 2 cores, up to Vega 7 compute graphics, and are built on the latest TSMC 7nm process node technology.
AMD’s Ryzen Pro hardware, much like Intel’s vPro, are commercial platforms. Commercial markets are similar to consumer markets, but rather than aiming to sell to users individually, commercial markets involve company-wide distribution of large numbers of units that are managed by a central IT team. For example, a global company might request 10000 units as part of its 3-5 year cyclical upgrade strategy – these units might be purchased outright from an OEM, or leased, depending on the contract. As a result, these devices typically have to adhere to a rigid structure to ensure full administrative capabilities (deployment, imaging, monitoring) while also minimizing downtime. If a company wants to deploy a stable confirmed software update over those 10,000 machines, it could be done at the click of a button on the admin side.
While this seems like an easy adjustment at the hardware level, it can be asked about what happens at the processor level to enable this. This is why AMD creates its own Ryzen Pro product lines specifically for these markets. These processors have specific features turned on, that aren’t turned on in consumer products – this also means that these processors require additional validation at the manufacturing level to ensure that these Pro features work.
This includes security, such as AMD’s Memory Guard which enabled full encryption for when a system is in hibernate mode/ a consumer laptop will still have data in memory, or in a stored page file, potentially unencrypted, open to attack. However a Ryzen Pro machine will keep it encrypted while in that hibernate mode. There are also additional collaborations on security with OEM partners, such as Lenovo’s Self-Healing BIOS and ThinkShield, HP’s Sure like of security, and then additional benefits in Windows.
There is also additional ecosystem stability metrics that these customers often require, such as a guarantee of company shipments of parts for at least 24 months with no iterative updates (e.g. the chip isn’t moved to a new process), and a guarantee that there will be OS image stability over 18 months. This isn’t unique to AMD, however it is part of the AMD package. Obviously AMD is citing the recent rise in Work-From-Home users as the key time to launch its new product line.
For the new hardware, AMD will be launching three Ryzen Pro 4000 series processors. These include a Ryzen 7 Pro, a Ryzen 5 Pro, and a Ryzen 3 Pro, all aimed at mobile devices with a TDP of 15 W.
|AMD Ryzen Pro 4000 Mobile Processors|
|Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U||8 / 16||1700||4100||8 MB||Vega 7||1600||15 W|
|Ryzen 5 Pro 4650U||6 / 12||2100||4000||8 MB||Vega 6||1500||15 W|
|Ryzen 3 Pro 4450U||4 / 8||2500||3700||4 MB||Vega 5||1400||15 W|
These improve over the previous generation Ryzen Pro 3000 series processors by increasing core counts across the stack, increasing the underlying microarchitecture, and all within the same power. As a result, AMD is quoting ~29% increased single threaded performance, ~132% increased multithreaded performance, and ~13 increased graphics performance for the Ryzen 7 Pro. Against comparative Intel parts, AMD is quoting up to 32% better performance in digital content creation and productivity, in benchmarks the company believes emulate real world performance.
The first products with the new Ryzen Pro 4000 Mobile Series processors are from Lenovo, namely several series of ThinkPads, which are the often quoted brand identifier that a product is ready for commercial use. The T14, T14s, X13, and L14/L15 Series (all Gen 1) will all use these new processors, offering 14-20 hours of battery life depending on the model. Technically Lenovo already announced the T14 and T14s back in February.
These machines will be available shortly, depending on region. Other Ryzen Pro devices are expected to be announced over the course of the next few months.
- New Lenovo ThinkPad Laptops: AMD Ryzen 4000 Pro or Intel 10th Gen
- AMD Announces Ryzen Pro 3000 Series CPUs For Q4
- Lenovo's ThinkPad X395: A 13.3-Inch AMD Ryzen Pro-Based Ultraportable
- AMD Launches 2nd Gen Ryzen Pro & Athlon Pro APUs
- HP Unveils ProDesk 405 G4 Desktop Mini PC: An SFF Ryzen Pro Desktop
- The Lenovo ThinkPad A285 (12.5-Inch) Review: Ryzen Pro Gets Down to Business
- AMD Launches Ryzen Pro with Vega: Mobile APUs and Desktop APUs
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willis936 - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - linkThis is fascinating. Just multiplying base clock and core count together shows that the 6 core and 8 core parts are theoretically 26% and 36% faster in multithreaded workloads than the 4 core part, respectively. I would be very interested to see if this actually holds true in testing.
Valantar - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - linkDon't forget the 15% IPC increase over Zen+.
GreenReaper - Sunday, May 10, 2020 - linkIt's definitely pushing up against the 15W limit. I'd be a little surprised if *all* of the CPUs aren't power-limited, because four Zen 2 cores should be able to use 15W between them, not even accounting for the graphics, and they should boost above base if they are able to. Of course, that's partly accounted for by the turbo limit, but I'd sure want to see the tests before buying more cores.
willis936 - Sunday, May 10, 2020 - linkThe assumption is that these parts do not change convention: TDP is average power dissipated when all cores are running at base frequency without using overly power hungry extensions.
phoenix_rizzen - Monday, May 11, 2020 - linkNo, that's the Intel definition of TDP, which is very misleading as the actual heat output of the CPU under use will be significantly higher.
AMD's definition is closer to "maximum heat output when running full-bore across all cores" or pretty much the max heat output the CPU should put out consistently when under use.
Intel gives you a minimum heat output you need to deal with. (If you want the CPU to go faster than base clocks, you need better cooling.)
AMD gives you a maximum heat output you need to deal with. (If you want the CPU to go faster than base clocks, you only need this amount of cooling.)
ksec - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - linkReading this make me sad Apple is still using Intel on its latest 13" MacBook.
Tomatotech - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - linkI'm given to understand that AMD is unable to make enough CPUs for Apple. Apple tends to order millions of a single model, and even Intel struggles with this. Apple has been bitten hard by this problem several times over in the past (failure of their chip supplier to provide timely supplies) so there are rumours they are moving from Intel to their own in-house ARM-based design.
Could be this year, could be next year, could be never. As it is, Apple's highly tweaked and customised ARM cores and tightly integrated software stack on their iPhones and iPads are thrashing the Intel chips in many of their own Mac devices.
willis936 - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - linkThis doesn't jive with my current understanding of things. Intel hasn't been able to meet demand for years and TSMC has slightly less capacity than Intel. AMD isn't the only chips TSMC makes, but Intel has a much larger market percentage. Apple does not move many products. They can afford to have premium chips.
close - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - linkThey just don;t want to redesign their hardware and do some significant software development to move to something that next generation might be in the same position Intel is now, So they're aiming at least for full vertical integration if they make their own CPUs.
Kaggy - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - linkI believe they sign long term contracts for chip agreements, no idea when their contract expires.