Sapphire Announces Two 4x4 AMD Ryzen Embedded Motherboardsby Anton Shilov on February 26, 2020 8:00 AM EST
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Sapphire has introduced two new miniature motherboards based on AMD’s Ryzen Embedded V1000/R1000 APUs. The new platforms are designed for the most compact highly-integrated machines for industrial and commercial applications.
Sapphire’s NP-FP5 and BP-FP5 compact motherboards feature a 4x4-inch footprint and are based on AMD’s Ryzen Embedded V1000 or R1000 APUs, which offer up to four Zen cores, an integrated Radeon Vega GPU, and a TDP of up to 25 W. The actively cooled systems support up to 32 GB of DDR4-2400 memory using two SO-DIMMs, feature one M.2 slot for an SSD with a PCIe 3.0 x4 or SATA interface, and one M.2-2230 slot for a Wi-Fi module.
The basic NP-FP5 supports two display outputs (using two mDP 1.4 connectors), one GbE port, and two USB 3.1 connectors (other USB ports can be supported using headers). Meanwhile, the more advanced BP-FP5 also has one SATA 6 Gbps + a SATA power connector, three display outputs (using two DP 1.4 and an HDMI connector), two USB 3.1 ports, two GbE connectors, one header for a RS232/422/485 port and Infineon’s SLB9670 TPM 2.0 on board.
One of the first systems that will use Sapphire’s BP-FP5 and NP-FP5 compact motherboards will be SimpleNUC’s Post Oak (with AMD Ryzen Embedded V1605B or R1606G APU) and Red Oak (AMD Ryzen Embedded R1505G or R1305G APU) UCFF PCs. The company will be offering PCs in various configurations to meet different price and performance targets.
|Sapphire's 4x4 Motherboards w/AMD Ryzen Embedded V1000/R1000 APUs|
|AMD Ryzen Embedded V1000/R1000 with up to four AMD Zen cores|
|Graphics||AMD Radeon Vega (integrated)|
|Display Outputs||2 × Mini DisplayPort 1.4||2 × DisplayPort 1.4
1 × HDMI 2.0
|Memory||2 × DDR4 SO-DIMM slots for up to 32 GB of DDR4-2400 SDRAM|
|Ethernet||1 × GbE||2 × GbE|
|Storage||1 × M.2-2242/2260 (PCIe 3.0 x4 or SATA)||1 × M.2-2242/2280 (PCIe 3.0 x4 or SATA)
1 × SATA 6 Gbps + SATA Power
|Audio||3.5-mm combo audio jack|
|USB||1 × USB 3.1 Type-A (front)
2 × USB 3.1 Type-A (back)
|2 × USB 2.0 Type-A (front)
2 × USB 3.1 Type-A (front)
2 × USB 3.1 Type-A (back)
|Serial Port||-||1 × RS232/422/485 header|
|TPM||-||Infineon SLB9670 TPM2.0 on board|
|Form-Factor||4 inch × 4 inch|
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Unashamed_unoriginal_username_x86 - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - linkThe Raspberry π just got a whole lot deadlier...
... They're not even the same size, why am I making this joke );
James5mith - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - linkSame-size competition for nucs. I like it. But does it seriously cap at 32GB capacity for RAM? 2x32GB SO-DIMMs aren't expensive anymore, and are relatively mainstream. 64GB support should hopefully be a firmware update away.
PhysicsNurd - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - linkWhat in the world could you possibly need 64GB of ram for on a board like this?
JoeyJoJo123 - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - linkThere are some pfSense modules that like to gobble up lots of memory. Squid (caches webpage content, more memory = more content in cache) and Snort (intrusion detection/security type stuff, having more memory overhead can help it compare incoming packets to more known bad actors and act before getting taken down) come to mind.
Yeah, 64GB isn't a common setup, but it's not an unreasonable thing to want. This is, after all, a niche product category. People will want it to be able to perform for their niche use-case.
rahvin - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - linkI run both, I've got 8GB in my pfsense box and memory use rarely tops 15%. Unless you are making a huge ram drive to store the squid cache and snort data there isn't use for that level of memory in pfsense unless you're running a custom package like a database (totally crazy) or it's a enterprise install with thousands of users.
Even 32GB on a pfsense box would be crazy out of the ordinary outside a enterprise installation with thousands of users and VPN clients. You need look no further than netgate's appliances to see this with their most expensive Xeon based pfsense box coming with 16gb of memory and maxing out at 32gb. https://www.netgate.com/products/appliances/
crazyhandpuppet - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link32GB is the most I can see at the moment. pfBlocker's TLD feature can eat up to 8GB+ (especially if you want to filter adult contect) and Suricata takes up between 600Mb-800Mb per interface (at least on my installs) including VLANs. That means with half a dozen VLANs and everything turned up for Suricata and pfBlocker I can see it in the low to mid teens. Maybe there is a Squid config that can eat up a couple of gigs? At that point maybe 32GB is useful, otherwise 16GB would suffice.
close - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - linkIt's an APU limitation so it won't be fixed with SW/FW. Single channel only supporting 32GB RAM. These parts don't usually go into the kind of systems that need more than that. They're 6-25W parts that are aimed at low power markets. If you need more RAM you probably want a beefier CPU too.
Also "AMD Ryzen Embedded V1000/R1000 with up to four AMD Zen cores" sounds weird, AMD doesn't list anything with more than 2 cores in their embedded offering: https://www.amd.com/en/products/specifications/emb...
Fulljack - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - linkhttps://www.amd.com/en/products/embedded-ryzen-v10...
the V1000 embedded processor offer 4 cores with SMT
5080 - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - linkSurprising that it doesn't support faster SO-DIMM's especially since it supports multiple 4k displays for signage applications.
b1ghen - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - linkAnd again it fails by using Realtek LAN, dual Intel NIC and it would have been a sweet tiny and capable pfSense machine