Double Height, Double Capacity DDR4? ZADAK's New 32 GB UDIMMsby Anton Shilov on September 28, 2018 10:00 AM EST
ZADAK, a maker of memory modules from Taiwan, has reportedly published photos of its upcoming unbuffered memory modules featuring a 32 GB capacity. The UDIMMs and SO-DIMMs are the first consumer-grade 32 GB memory sticks to feature RGB lighting. The main intrigue about the modules is how ZADAK managed to build them ahead of many rivals.
This week the Chinese subsidiary of ZADAK published the first images of the company’s Shield DC Aura2 RGB-branded 32 GB UDIMM and SO-DIMM on its Weibo page. The modules are rated at DDR4-3200 MT/s (unknown subtimings), and are outfitted with large aluminum heat spreaders featuring RGB lightbars.
So far, only Samsung has introduced 32 GB consumer-grade non-ECC DDR4 UDIMMs and SO-DIMMs. Samsung's modules are based on the company’s 16 Gb DDR4 chips and are available to select customers only. Other leading suppliers of memory modules, including Corsair, G.Skill, GEIL, and others, only offer 16 GB consumer-graded non-ECC unbuffered modules based on 4 or 8 Gb devices. In order for Zadak to impliment 32GB modules ahead of its rivals, it would need one of two things: Samsung's 16Gb chips, or a new technology. By going the double height route, it is clear that they are using a different technology to increase capacity.
It is worth noting that 32GB-256GB modules already exist for servers and workstations, but these are RDIMMs , with a register chip and ECC, and is a different technology from the standard 'unbuffered' DIMMs for home computers. RDIMMs enable memory controllers to support a higher amount of memory chips without losing stability, which is why almost all RDIMMs typically also feature ECC.
ZADAK does not disclose which DRAMs it uses for its 32 GB Shield DC Aura2 RGB modules, and we're waiting on more information from them although there is a bit of a translation barrier - when asked for information, we were told 'it's a new technology' without any expansion. Considering how large ZADAK’s 32 GB SO-DIMMs are, it is possible that they are based on 32 8 Gb DRAM and feature a register chip to enable systems to work with the modules stably. It is also possible that Samsung has started to sell its 16 Gb chips to third parties and ZADAK is among the first to start teasing potential customers with high-capacity modules, and the best way to advertise this was super big memory PCBs.
While 32 GB consumer-grade memory modules certainly look impressive on paper, their practical usability is potentially limited. Mainstream client CPUs only officially support up to 64 GB of memory, and systems that need 64 GB of RAM usually have four DIMM slots. As a result, client PCs do not necessarily need 32 GB modules just now. Furthermore, given the current prices of DRAM, specialty 32GB DIMMs like these will be anything but cheap. However it may point to CPUs that support double current capacity points in the future.
- Samsung Adds 32 GB UDIMMs to Memory Lineup
- Samsung Kicks Off Mass Production of 64GB RDIMMs Using 16Gbit Chips
- Samsung Unveils 32 GB DDR4-2666 SO-DIMMs
- Samsung Demos 64 GB RDIMM Based on 16 Gb Chips, Promises 256 GB LRDIMMs
Source: PC Watch
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ZeDestructor - Friday, September 28, 2018 - linkThese (allegedly, based on leaked pictures) only have 16 DDR packages per side. I have 16GB RDIMMs in my server with 19 DDR packages per side and a register chip in the standard baseline DIMM form factor. Being this tall is entirely about the aesthetics.
On top of that, I do believe (once again, based on the leaked picture) that the DIMM has 2 SPD chips, which would make this literally 2 UDIMMs on one PCB, and not a quad-ranked UDIMM as one might hope.
So much empty PCB space though: https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2018/09/ASUS-ZADAK2.j...
ZeDestructor - Friday, September 28, 2018 - linkErr.. 18 DDR chips per side, and 1 register chip per DIMM
(edit button when?)
Ian Cutress - Friday, September 28, 2018 - linkCan't see that picture. What page is it on?
Mr Perfect - Friday, September 28, 2018 - linkWell, I'd like to say that this is the only way to get 64GB in a two-DIMM mITX build, but it's going to be so hard to get DIMMs that tall into a SFF build that it's kind of off the table.
Inteli - Friday, September 28, 2018 - linkBecause who needs heat sink clearance?
These are actually pretty cool, and if it means 128 GB of RAM on mainstream motherboards I'm all for them. With current memory prices, though, these are likely $300-400 a stick, and I'm too poor for that. 128 GB of RAM would cost as much as my system.
Akasamaru - Friday, September 28, 2018 - linkRelease date?
Ian Cutress - Friday, September 28, 2018 - linkStill waiting on information
paul sss - Friday, September 28, 2018 - linki believe the need for these is next gen threadripper with 1TB ram support.
most consumer grade intel chips are limited to 64 GB ram.
being non-ECC i think workstations are the market like cad/cam or video encoding.
Lord of the Bored - Saturday, September 29, 2018 - link"Mainstream client CPUs only officially support up to 64 GB"
When have computer hobbyists ever cared about official support?
If it fits, we see if it boots. If it boots, we see if it is stable. If it is stable, we see if it can be overclocked. If it can't be overclocked, we stab it with a pencil to unlock it(I still love the simplicity of the pencil trick).
Manufacturer specifications are not a rule to be followed, they are a challenge to be overcome.