The 2016 Razer Blade Pro Review
by Brandon Chester on March 6, 2017 8:00 AM EST- Posted in
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GPU Performance
The headline feature of the 2016 Razer Blade Pro is definitely its use of NVIDIA's GTX 1080 GPU. NVIDIA's Pascal generation of GPUs has brought us to the point where you really can get essentially the same GPU performance from a laptop as a desktop, although the base clock speed is slightly lower than its desktop counterpart, and thermals can play a large role in laptop performance. GTX 1080 is still NVIDIA's flagship GPU, and the Blade Pro is the first machine I've seen with it that isn't a ridiculously bulky desktop replacement laptop.
In theory, using GTX 1080 does get you about the same performance as a desktop with the same GPU, but as I mentioned before, thermal constraints can cause a gap in performance. Other factors like the speed of the CPU can also have an impact, so it's important to properly evaluate the Blade Pro even though knowing the specifications already provides an idea of how well it will perform. With that in mind, I've run the Blade Pro through our standard GPU workflow for laptops.
3DMark
3DMark has evolved over the years to match the increasing performance of GPUs. In the newer, more GPU-intensive tests like Fire Strike, Sky Diver, and Cloud Gate, the Razer Blade Pro is right near the top of the chart. In Fire Strike and Sky Driver it wins against the MSI GT80 with it's dual GTX 980M GPUs, but it comes in a bit lower in Cloud Gate. The Clevo P870DM2 always comes in first as a result of its faster desktop CPU, which isn't unexpected. Overall, 3DMark shows the strong performance of NVIDIA's GTX 1080 and the Blade Pro.
GFXBench
GFXBench basically exists for testing lower-performing laptops, as well as to verify that nothing is wrong with a laptop's performance for OpenGL titles. The Blade Pro performs as expected in both cases, sitting between the Clevo P870DM2 and the ASUS ROG Strix.
Dota 2 Reborn
Dota 2 is really CPU-bound at this point, with all the 6700HQ-based laptops achieving similar levels of performance. While the Blade Pro is at the same level as ASUS's GTX 1070 ROG Strix, the Clevo P870DM2 with its i7-6700K is nearly twice as fast as the Blade Pro despite using the same GPU. Ultimately this situation isn't unexpected for Dota 2, and the Blade Pro won't have any trouble with it even if the resolution is increased beyond the 1080p resolution that we test at.
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider is perhaps the best showing for the Blade Pro, with performance being very close to that of the Clevo P870DM2, and significantly faster than any of the other laptops that we've tested.
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Rise of the Tomb Raider is a newer addition to our benchmark suite, so there aren't many results at this point. However, the order of the top results here mirrors the previous Tomb Raider test, with the Clevo P870DM2 at the top, followed by the Blade Pro, and the ASUS ROG Strix coming in third.
Civilization VI
Civ VI is a relatively new addition to the benchmark suite, and the only other laptop on record is the ASUS ROG Strix. As usual, Civ remains a more CPU-bound title, and with the same i7-6700HQ the Blade Pro performs essentially the same as the ROG Strix despite the difference in GPUs. Using one of Intel's faster CPUs would have helped differentiate the Blade Pro from other laptops in these CPU-bound titles, which would have avoided the awkward situation where a $3700 laptop doesn't perform any better than one which is less than half the price.
Bioshock Infinite
Bioshock Infinite is a case where the Blade Pro falls pretty far behind the Clevo P870DM2. I actually find the result of the P870DM2 to be somewhat questionable, as it seems higher than I would think is possible, so I can only assume that it must have been a really lucky run. In this case the Blade Pro performs slightly better than the MSI GT80 with its pair of GTX 980M GPUs, which is still quite a feat.
Dragon Age: Inquisition
Dragon Age: Inquisition is one case where the Blade Pro is actually closer to the ASUS ROG Strix with its GTX 1070 than the Clevo P870DM2 which also uses GTX 1080. This is really something that depends on the game, and whether there are situations where the CPU becomes the limiting factor for performance. The performance is still significantly better than the GTX 1070, and noticably faster than a pair of 980Ms.
Shadow of Mordor
The Blade Pro performs well in Shadow of Mordor, although this is another case where the frame rate is slightly closer to that of the ASUS ROG Strix with its GTX 1070 GPU than the Clevo P870DM2. Still, the performance is quite impressive, especially when you consider how the Blade Pro is again surpassing the performance of the MSI GT80 which used a pair of GTX 980M GPUs and was the performance leader for laptops until the launch of NVIDIA's Pascal parts.
Grid Autosport
GRID is another case where machines become CPU limited at our test settings. The Blade Pro sits alongside several other laptops with lesser GPUs, while the Clevo P870DM2 has a large lead because of its desktop i7-6700K CPU. While Razer couldn't have put a 91W desktop CPU in their laptop, using a faster quad core mobile part could have improved performance here.
GPU Conclusion
When I first looked into gaming laptops many years ago as an interested consumer it was typically the case that NVIDIA's mobile parts reflected the performance of the GPU three tiers below that of the desktop card with a matching name. The performance that you can achieve in a notebook has gone up substantially since that time, and we're now seeing what are basically desktop parts shipping in laptops. In the case of the Razer Blade Pro, you have NVIDIA's GTX 1080, which is their flagship card for notebooks.
In the tests above it's clear that the Razer Blade Pro is one of the fastest notebooks on the market. The GTX 1080 provides a substantial increase in performance compared to laptops like the ASUS ROG Strix which use GTX 1070. However, if you were expecting the same performance as Clevo's P870DM2 you may be feeling somewhat left down. I was initially suprised by the gap, especially with the Razer Blade Pro being closer to the ROG Strix than the P870DM2 in some situations. After some examination, I've concluded that there isn't really any GPU throttling occuring, and looking at the titles where the gap is largest makes it evident that we're seeing the impact of differing CPUs. The Blade Pro's 2.6GHz i7-6700HQ is no slouch, but it's not going to keep up with a 4GHz i7 sitting in a desktop replacement that's twice as thick.
While this situation is unavoidable, there are two things I want to highlight. The first is that Razer could have, and should have used i7-6920HQ. I mentioned that on the previous page, and it bears repeating here. The Blade Pro is a premium laptop that starts at $3699. It's a machine that spares no expense, and it should be using Intel's fastest quad core chip. This would help in narrowing the gap between it and the P870DM2, and I'm pretty sure Razer would still bring in a healthy margin on the laptop.
The other point I wanted to mention is that the gap between the Blade Pro and the P870DM2 will be diminshed when running games at UHD. At that point the GPU becomes the limiting factor, and the difference in CPU performance has a smaller impact. Unfortunately, a single GTX 1080 really isn't sufficient to run modern titles at UHD unless you reduce the graphical settings to a point where the game probably looks worse overall than it did maxed at 1080p.
Ultimately, the Razer Blade Pro is still an incredibly fast machine, and 1080p is a perfectly suitable resolution to run games at on a 17-inch display. For example, I played through Deus Ex: Mankind Divided at max settings on the Blade Pro at 1080p and I was never bothered by scaling artifacts or aliasing. For $3699 I think Razer should have put in the fastest possible CPU in order to maximize performance, but as it is the Blade Pro is still highly capable and should be able to run modern games at high settings for the forseeable future.
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Notmyusualid - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 - link
Lovely machine.They should hire you for product development!
I'd add only this, the screen: 4k too high, 60Hz too low.
I think I could live with that CPU, but not the screen.
I'm on my 6th DTR, and I'm now longing for something like this...
Peace.
scook9 - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 - link
One issue I have with this review is the SUPER light touch when it came to the cooling performance. Razer laptops are super suave for sure and look great but for the last few years their cooling performance has been just about garbage. As you noted with the marketing driven design, cooling also suffers due to the need for "thinness" - I am speaking from painful experience here. I have a 2015 Razer Blade that I really liked except for when I had to use it.... Opening chrome would cause the fans to max and the CPU to throttle. It couldn't play Diablo 3 without my tuning the crap out of the CPU and game settings or else throttling and very unstable FPS would occur, never mind the nearly full speed fans at all times. I had to underclock and undervolt the CPU just to stop the throttling, fans were never great.When you review a gaming laptop, saying the palm rest wasn't too hot is NOT at all acceptable for a "thermals" section. You should be running stress tests and showing us temperature readings from both software as well as your thermal camera. Then also include sound readings for the fan noise - thought this site used to provide audio recordings as well. And lately in my experience, the CPU throttling has been much more of an issue than the GPU - you mentioned this 0 times well commenting multiple times that the GPU didn't seem to be throttling.
Razer makes an undeniably pretty laptop but for me the thermals came across as an afterthought and that was not acceptable. They are simply trying to do too much in too little space with every laptop model except the Blade Stealth and they need to hear from the market that this is not going to cut it.
jsntech - Tuesday, March 7, 2017 - link
Agreed. I hunted all over for detailed thermal/noise info, and then actually re-checked the article title to make sure this wasn't one of their little previews. Odd that these mandatory metrics are glossed over. Especially important on gaming laptops, since these components produce far greater TDP than anything in non-gaming ones.Zan Lynx - Wednesday, March 8, 2017 - link
I have a Razer Pro 2016. It is VERY loud. Wear headphones. It does not have throttling problems. It does have to drop the boost clocks but never below the CPU's speed rating.SkipPerk - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - link
Thanks for the info. Would you say the thinner case is worth the noise or no? I would rather have a thicker case, but it does seem like some people need that thin factor.yhselp - Friday, March 10, 2017 - link
3.54 kg / 7.8 lbs :( That weight alone makes all the improvements irrelevant for users that want a sleeker, more portable premium 17-incher. Both the 17" MacBook and the old 17" Razers were ~6.6 lbs. Such a shame they chose to sacrifice weight the new model after a 2-year wait.SkipPerk - Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - link
Isn't that all the GPU and cooling? How can you get that much GPU in a light weight notebook?